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So i decided to do this

 

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Wednesday, March 05, 2014
12:53 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): ello
12:53 PM - Budida: Hey! Mah friend is looking for keys, he is want to make unbox. Add him, he have low price
<Phish link>
12:54 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): what price
12:54 PM - Budida: 6.66 or something
12:54 PM - Budida: or 7
12:54 PM - Budida: dont even remember
12:54 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): can he go 6.33
12:54 PM - Budida: may be
12:54 PM - Budida: if u have many keys
12:54 PM - Budida: not 1 or 2 thi
12:54 PM - Budida: tho
12:55 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): hmm
12:57 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): well, tell me real quick sir. What site did you get this from, or did you make it yourself. I don't really know how many misspelled versions of steamcommunity i have seen, but i don't believe i have seen this one before. That reply to the link was merely letting me know you aren't a computer :)
12:57 PM - Budida: What do you mean?
12:57 PM - Budida: What site i can get this?
12:57 PM - Budida: Dunno what do you mean
12:57 PM - Budida: mah eng is bad
12:58 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): the phish link. Is that yours or someone else's
12:58 PM - Budida: Mah
12:58 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): so you made this system yourself
12:58 PM - Budida: I bought it
12:58 PM - Budida: but
12:58 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): ah
12:58 PM - Budida: it's needs changes
12:58 PM - Budida: every time
12:58 PM - Budida: so yeh, i bought another system
12:58 PM - Budida: But this
12:58 PM - Budida: that works now
12:59 PM - Budida: is changes that much
12:59 PM - Budida: so i can say it's mah
12:59 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): ah
12:59 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): so a guy made it for you? how much
1:00 PM - Budida: no
1:00 PM - Budida: not like this
1:00 PM - Budida: he gave me a guide
1:00 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): ah
1:00 PM - Budida: (with these ssfa files)
1:00 PM - Budida: site was made myself
1:01 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): aaah, so you you followed a tutorial and did it yourself
1:01 PM - Budida: not tutorial omg
1:01 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): haha
1:01 PM - Budida: Guide with which i understand the system
1:01 PM - Budida: sry for very bad english
1:02 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): nah, thats ok
1:02 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): well, i'm glad you actually had a conversation with me about this, you aren't getting my items though :P
1:02 PM - Budida: i checked ur account
1:03 PM - Budida: u dont have items for me
1:03 PM - Budida: :C
1:03 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): <random misspelled steamcommunity link>
1:03 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): Thats my alt
1:03 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): lol
1:04 PM - Budida: if i get ur account
1:04 PM - Budida: U
1:04 PM - Budida: oh
1:04 PM - Budida: how to say that
1:04 PM - Budida: u dont have nice items to sale
1:04 PM - Budida: U have a lot of
1:04 PM - Budida: But they all is scrap
1:05 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): yea, i sell parts alot for scrap and vice versa
1:06 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): well, i guess that's it then. Anything else you want to talk about?
1:06 PM - Budida: yea, u can report me or something
1:07 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): you WANT me to report you?
1:07 PM - Budida: it's ur decision
1:07 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): well, its not gonna do anything if you account hop anyway
1:07 PM - Budida: hop?
1:08 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): move from one to the next
1:08 PM - Budida: oh
1:08 PM - Budida: like bunnyhop
1:08 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): yep
1:08 PM - Budida: i dont like person
1:08 PM - Budida: who tell something
1:08 PM - Budida: like
1:08 PM - Budida: I'LL REPORT U GO BURN IN HELL
1:08 PM - Budida: Or something
1:09 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): well, they have all the rights to get mad at you if you take their stuff, right?
1:09 PM - Budida: yes, but if u are so good
1:10 PM - Budida: and didnt
1:10 PM - Budida: click the link
1:10 PM - Budida: u know
1:10 PM - Budida: u understand me
1:10 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): yes
1:10 PM - Budida: they can proud of themselves
1:10 PM - Budida: But
1:10 PM - Budida: Why do they start wasting time
1:10 PM - Budida: with this
1:10 PM - Budida: ...
1:10 PM - Budida: dunno how to say
1:11 PM - Budida: u can just delete
1:11 PM - Budida: and all
1:11 PM - Budida: Why do i need to die cuz of just little lie?
1:12 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): Like crying over spilled milk
1:12 PM - Budida: yeah, don't really understanded this cuz of
1:12 PM - Budida: don't know
1:12 PM - Budida: what is
1:12 PM - Budida: spilled
1:12 PM - Budida: but i have an idea
1:12 PM - Budida: that this is like
1:13 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): milk dropped on the floor
1:12 PM - Budida: if u throw ur milk
1:12 PM - Budida: yeah
1:13 PM - Budida: That's it
1:13 PM - Budida: thanks
1:13 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): yea
1:13 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): Let me ask you another question real quick. Do you do this because you need the money or because there are specific people you dont like?
1:14 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): Or another reason that i am missing
1:14 PM - Budida: yeah, cuz of money
1:14 PM - Budida: I'm student
1:14 PM - Budida: I need to pay for mah
1:14 PM - Budida: how to say
1:14 PM - Budida: room
1:14 PM - Budida: but bigger
1:14 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): tuition
1:14 PM - Budida: Appartment
1:14 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): yea
1:14 PM - Budida: pr something
1:14 PM - Budida: well
1:14 PM - Budida: i am
1:14 PM - Budida: arrend that
1:14 PM - Budida: do english have word "arrend"?
1:15 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): i can google it, because i dont know. lol
1:15 PM - Budida: arrend
1:15 PM - Budida: it;s
1:15 PM - Budida: like
1:15 PM - Budida: i'm pay to somebody
1:15 PM - Budida: every month
1:15 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): pay rent
1:15 PM - Budida: Yeah
1:15 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): ah
1:15 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): Do you have a job?
1:15 PM - Budida: yes
1:16 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): But it is not enough, correct?
1:15 PM - Budida: But it's not so much for young soul
1:16 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): yea, that's understandable. If i may ask, what country do you live in? I'm obviously from USA as my profile says
1:16 PM - Budida: Russia
1:16 PM - Budida: i'm from russia
1:16 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): ah
1:16 PM - Budida: Everybody hate us :C
1:17 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): well, Russia is unfortunatley the country that most other countries do not, uh, "appreciate" As example, this Ukraine thing.
1:18 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): But you know, alot of people hate USA
1:19 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): I don't really have much else to talk about. Anything else?
1:20 PM - Budida: Nope, good night and luck
1:21 PM - Budida: oh
1:21 PM - Budida: it's not night
1:21 PM - Budida: at ur place
1:21 PM - Budida: ye?
1:21 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): Right
1:21 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): its 13:21 here
1:21 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): or 1:21 PM
1:21 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): what time is it by you
1:21 PM - Budida: 23 22
1:22 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): ah, a good 10 hours of difference
1:25 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): Alrighty then. I wish you the best of luck for making a living for yourself. Try to restrain yourself from phishing as much as you can though. It could hurt some nice people. (Like me :P). Have a good night.
1:25 PM - Budida: thanks and sorry at all
1:25 PM - JCapps (Lord Demopan): of course. Seeya
1:26 PM - Budida is now Offline.
 
 
I can say I learned a few things. On the detective side, one being that someone is selling their script templates. Not much, but still something.
 
 
 
 
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nice mate, usually they are all bots.

now we know that there is a lot of people involved on that, and that people buy those templates.

 

EDIT: out of curiosity, a simple google search gives you the templates, tutorials and everything else you need

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A decent chunk of phishers comes out of Russia, I always asumed if was b/c of the corruption and fairly widespread need for money, along with the gov.+society not generally discouraging things like phishing, so this hardly surprises me tbh

that said, you should've told him you are taking stuff people have worked for, and that him needing money isnt a good reason for theft, as no reason for theft is a good one

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hmm, this is very interesting. Keep in mind some bots do have automated replies. This one, is clearly a human. After reading this i kinda wanna try talking to a phisher. Maybe we can find a reason for all the recent phishing link spamming.

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I really hope no one is feeling sorry for this guy. Stealing is still stealing no matter how you look at it. What if he steals from someone at a even worst financial state than himself? All scammers/phishers should be treated the same.

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I have ZERO sympathy for any phisher no matter what reason they give for their actions. He can get off his fucking ass and make more money a legal way. Russia might not be as opportunistic as the West but is not a third world country. To me this is no different than the thousands of American scum who sit on their ass and abuse unemployment/food stamp systems. I guarantee you there are honest Russian students in his same financial situation who do the right thing to get through it.

 

You should not feel sympathetic for him.

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http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6852-phishing-organisation/&do=findComment&comment=75769

 

Append to this the fact that it's now public knowledge how to do it.

 

Keep up the good work, Steam.

 

Nice post you made, I'm guessing phishers don't even make that much profit as people with high value BP's are a lot smarter/experienced than new ppl with low value BP's. Phishing will never stop but it's pretty easy not to get phished.

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So what happens if you click the link?

You click the link, it prompts you to login or whatever, and it saves all of that information from every user that actually logs into it in a nice little file for the owner of the site to read and do with as he pleases.

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So what happens if you click the link?

Nothing, if you are smart enough. Best way to try if the site is legitimate is to click "Log in" without entering credentials at all, it will still ask for your SteamGuard code if it is a phishing site

 

I like talkative phishers though, many are quite stupid too: http://i.imgur.com/HbNppor.png

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I gotta say though, even if that guy was a completely legit trader and was going to pay a buyout in pure for my unusual, I'd still refuse to even entertain his offer seeing as he has to put 1 sentence on 8+ lines.

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Your title is a misleading oxymoron; no phisher is capable of having an intellectual conversation.

Das racist! Warn yourself, please. >:U

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Your title is a misleading oxymoron; no phisher is capable of having an intellectual conversation.

Who knows, maybe you'll find a guy near the lake you can have a nice chat with. Y'know, learn a thing or two.
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My favourite part is how his feelings are hurt when people tell him to f*** off and die and how they just don't have to click the link that's designed to steal potentially thousands of dollars worth of items from the very people he'd wish would be a little nicer to him.  Hmm...great logic mister phisher.  

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