pancakes.tfShiny Umbreon Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 so i tryed to get keys back to there original price (3-5 ref) but 2 people comment saying that i should get over it and a mod closes it down because no proof... i had this link as my proof. whoever thinks that i9ts not too high is either A wants to ruin peoples expirence with trading or B think its a good price when in reality its WAAAAY to high. i hope people these prices are ruining the economy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Slanders Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 An individual such as yourself is not going to bring down the key prices, if it is still in high demand and people continue to buy them they're gonna keep on raising until it reaches a point. If anything you should be happy that they're that expensive since if you buy one you can basically get all the basic weapons with a small purchase including some hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof. TrollDemo Ph.D Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I don't want to watch a 24 minute video to find your proof, so I'll jsut say what people are already telling you. Suck it up. It won't change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iTrade ™ Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 You need sales though. And sales suggest that keys are 28+ ref at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancakes.tfShiny Umbreon Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 An individual such as yourself is not going to bring down the key prices, if it is still in high demand and people continue to buy them they're gonna keep on raising until it reaches a point. If anything you should be happy that they're that expensive since if you buy one you can basically get all the basic weapons with a small purchase including some hats. they are too expensive for almost ANYONE to buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Slanders Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 they are too expensive for almost ANYONE to buy ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancakes.tfShiny Umbreon Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 I don't want to watch a 24 minute video to find your proof, so I'll jsut say what people are already telling you. Suck it up. It won't change. Obviously u are just one of the people who are listed in my thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancakes.tfShiny Umbreon Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 ??? key word ALMOST ANYONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happysedits Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Yo can't do anything about it. The amount of ref is still rising, the $ price of keys isn't. In a healthy economy that means key will cost more and more ref. We need a ref sink to fix that or somehow get rid of the ref, it won't change until then. they are too expensive for almost ANYONE to buy No? The price in money $ is still the same, ref is dropping, you can buy it for same amount of money as 5 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apo Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 they are too expensive for almost ANYONE to buy 2 dollars? Dude, if you can't afford that, you should get a job instead of trying to trade. The only reason you want keys low, is because you want easy profit. SpotlightR, Bobsplosion, Angelcake and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pancakes.tfShiny Umbreon Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 dollars? Dude, if you can't afford that, you should get a job instead of trying to trade. The only reason you want keys low, is because you want easy profit. Yo can't do anything about it. The amount of ref is still rising, the $ price of keys isn't. In a healthy economy that means key will cost more and more ref. We need a ref sink to fix that or somehow get rid of the ref, it won't change until then. No? The price in money $ is still the same, ref is dropping, you can buy it for same amount of money as 5 years ago. NOT WITH BUYING THEM FROM STORE... BESIDES I WANT IT TO BE AS F2P AS POSSIBLE... I ONLY PAYED $0.99 FOR ! ITEM TO TRADE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polar Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 The value of keys hasn't changed much in the last 3 years. It was $1.70-1.80 per key before and now it's $1.85-1.90. Almost anyone can afford 2 dollars. Now your 2 dollars goes much farther. Before with 2 dollars you would only get 5 refined worth of stuff. Now you get 29 refined worth of stuff for the same money. With 29 ref you can buy a complete cosmetic set! Happysedits, ǍгᴋᴀɴД ₭ɪлʛ, HarryG and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancakes.tfShiny Umbreon Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 The value of keys hasn't changed much in the last 3 years. It was $1.70-1.80 per key before and now it's $1.85-1.90. Almost anyone can afford 2 dollars. Now your 2 dollars goes much farther. Before with 2 dollars you would only get 5 refined worth of stuff. Now you get 29 refined worth of stuff for the same money. With 29 ref you can buy a complete cosmetic set! i ment i dont want to buy the keys from the store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Slanders Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 The price of refined has gone down, the price of the key has been the same... If you're complaining about how you don't want to buy a key because you are poor is completely different from keys are too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apo Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 The price for keys has always been roughly the same. The price of ref however, keeps getting lower. If a key = $2, in order for the key to be worth 4 ref, ref would have to be worth $0.50 Refined metal is <$0.09 Nobody is going to sell a $2 key for <$0.36 in metal. Your issue is that refined is worthless, not that keys are "too expensive." NetherResonant and ThePickleCat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polar Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 i ment i dont want to buy the keys from the store They are cheaper if you buy from reputed sellers via paypal. And not wanting to pay 2 dollars is your problem. Not a problem with the economy. Freeloaders like you who just want free stuff with refined without putting anything into the economy are the ones who are ruining the economy. Argylekicks, ksolis01, HarryG and 21 others 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Slanders Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 They are cheaper if you buy from reputed sellers via paypal. And not wanting to pay 2 dollars is your problem. Not a problem with the economy. Freeloaders like you who just want free stuff with refined without putting anything into the economy are the ones who are ruining the economy. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksolis01 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 They are cheaper if you buy from reputed sellers via paypal. And not wanting to pay 2 dollars is your problem. Not a problem with the economy. Freeloaders like you who just want free stuff with refined without putting anything into the economy are the ones who are ruining the economy. Third this. An in game economy cannot exist if people aren't putting in real money into it. You can't just make money out of thin air. Just ask Germany how that went for them in the 1900s. SpotlightR, Crazyy Cow, Professional Map Painter and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happysedits Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I love how everyone is laughing how everything is getting expensive because of keys, actually, it's the other way around. Jessica 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Map Painter Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Long218, please return to us and smite these fools who dare believe that the price of keys should be lower. Bobsplosion, Crazyy Cow, Happysedits and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Ludwig Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 they are too expensive for almost ANYONE to buy Which is why almost everyone who is deep into TF2 has more than one right? They're 2 euros/2 dollars on the market. Just buy them or get them from trading. You know, stuff that requires work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Bakula Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 BESIDES I WANT IT TO BE AS F2P AS POSSIBLE... I ONLY PAYED $0.99 FOR ! ITEM TO TRADE Then you shouldn't be asking for keys to be in the 3-5 refined range, as when keys were that low, there was a major cavat: TF2 was not free to play then. So, if you wanted a 5 refined key, you first had to pay $20 to get the game itself to start trading. Also, back then, refined took more weapons to make (27 as opposed to today's 18) and item drop rates were much lower. So, that 5 refined would still take a person a good, solid 4-5 months to idle for. Incidentally, $20 is considered to be a solid initial investment into the game for a person to begin trading. So, a person could easily choose to start at basically the same level as a person back in the vintage days of trading. However, by deciding to be purely f2p and working their way up from nothing, a person is intentionally handicapping themselves, which is why they receive little pity when they complain. It's like deciding to go golfing with only a putter and getting mad when you can't reach the green on the first hit. Happysedits, Kimika-chan, habanero and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaser Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Im dying 😂😂🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gren Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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