RuffRyders Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Opens this suggestion, trying to bring it down with no valid proof or what so ever, http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51c1ce9c4bd7b8cc73000017 He has opened 3 days ago a buying trade at lowball price here http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11764380 He is trying to collect all kind of vintages, genuines etc. Isn't it obvious he is trying to manipulate here? And is this not banable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrocide Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Been buying vintages and genuines for months mate. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8771709 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8771613 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8341238 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8340650 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8471289 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10168628 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9054837 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9052725 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9933240 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9052600 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9052623 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRyders Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 Been buying vintages and genuines for months mate. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8771709 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8771613 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8341238 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8340650 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8471289 How is that a counter-argument? Why have you posted all kind of unrelated trades with other items? I am talking about the Stash here and only here it is. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8771709 and http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9054837. It got closed 3 months ago looking at the comments before the retirement. Now you have opened it again to buy it. Seems like you haven't bought it in a while and are now desperate and try to bring price down. Even better you have been trying to buy genuines and vintages for months. Looking at your suggestion history, you have tried to bring many vintages and genuines down just so you can buy them http://backpack.tf/u/76561197993076425 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrocide Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 You claim I am manipulating prices on vintages and genuines that I am buying. When in fact I have been buying vintages and genuines for months. Out of all of my, very few, suggestions this one may or may not be correct its manipulation? Hell even some of them I had open trades for months before suggesting a new price. Particularly the crate 30 stranges. EDIT: lol desperate? mate I have been sitting here collecting vintages and genuines from my own trades. I hardly ever post in other peoples trades attempting to buy them for lower than the specified amount they have stated. Some of my suggestion ideas come from getting offers on my trades. For one the Iron Mask. I am keen on genuines and vintages in suggestions because that is what I buy in the market. Sue me. EDIT2: More soldier stash trades - kept around the same amount in all of my redone trades. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7961486 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7611108 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6656940 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8341380 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRyders Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 You got 2 pages of suggestions http://backpack.tf/vote.php?skip=0&all=1&steamid=76561197993076425 Lets see 95% of it trying to bring down genuines. vintages and Salvaged stranges These items you are trying to buy at low price on outpost for months. @ http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11000568 Salvaged http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11764380 Some vintages http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10168522 Some genuines The other 1% is trying to bring your own items up like http://backpack.tf/vote/id/515ddbd84bd7b80533000009 with 20% score only The fact that you haven't bought in months is because of your lowballing price. I dont know why you keep trying to bring up that argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrocide Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Man i remember that unusual suggestion. I was offered a max when they first retired but didnt think to do a suggestion at the time. If i was manipulating prices do you really think i would have just done only 2 pages of items I am obviously collecting based on my past trades and backpack. Its not like I dont have the 2 keys to throw down on a stash or the funds in my bank account to buy a strange kritz. When i see an obvious price deviation from the norm I make a suggestion if it isnt already made. The stash wasnt being sold at 2 keys. Out of 4 pages, MAYBE 2 of them are actual non collector trades and of those 1.5 pages are not painted/tagged/highballer prices. I followed the trend for price scale which was 1 or 2 proof link showing the bottom end of the scale and then made a suggestion based on the items not being sold. 2 month old price, 10+ trades 1 week and older of being unsold or not even so much an offer. Price is wrong, at least IMO. If you think differently, thats you opinion, much like calling me a manipulator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRyders Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 Man i remember that unusual suggestion. I was offered a max when they first retired but didnt think to do a suggestion at the time. If i was manipulating prices do you really think i would have just done only 2 pages of items I am obviously collecting based on my past trades and backpack. Its not like I dont have the 2 keys to throw down on a stash or the funds in my bank account to buy a strange kritz. When i see an obvious price deviation from the norm I make a suggestion if it isnt already made. The stash wasnt being sold at 2 keys. Out of 4 pages, MAYBE 2 of them are actual non collector trades and of those 1.5 pages are not painted/tagged/highballer prices. I followed the trend for price scale which was 1 or 2 proof link showing the bottom end of the scale and then made a suggestion based on the items not being sold. 2 month old price, 10+ trades 1 week and older of being unsold or not even so much an offer. Price is wrong, at least IMO. If you think differently, thats you opinion, much like calling me a manipulator. Yes, it was really a coincidence you are only making deflating suggestions for all items you are trying to buy :') "When i see an obvious price deviation from the norm I make a suggestion if it isnt already made" That's why you have no valid proof of 1.5 keys low range of Soldier Stash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloo Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Its not manipulation if you're already buying for lower. If anything it will hurt his flipping business because people hate buying an item that was recently lowered in price. Continuing the stop further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC22 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 How is this manipulation?I'm surprised you haven't called me out for raising my unusuals yet since you detest me so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrocide Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 If anything it will hurt his flipping business If only i had the patience to actually flip items for a profit. However, the vintage and genuine items I buy are for my collection and no one else. #greedybastard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRyders Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 How is this manipulation? I'm surprised you haven't called me out for raising my unusuals yet since you detest me so. How? 1. Lower the price on backpack.tf 2. Buy cheaper on outpost 3. Profit? For him bigger collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRyders Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 Its not manipulation if you're already buying for lower. If anything it will hurt his flipping business because people hate buying an item that was recently lowered in price. Continuing the stop further. It helps him. Its easier to buy a item listed 1.5 - 2 for 1 key then when it is listed 2 keys flat. Also he doesn't flip, so that argument is invalid. He buys them for his collection, so lowering the prices is benefiting him to buy cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrocide Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 eh its closed. Dusnt mater, steel not mahnipulashun. Enjoy, mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleverpun Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Suggestion was rejected, locking thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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