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this isn't phishing, and I wouldn't even say it's a scam. It's just someone offering you a bad deal.

also I'm super open to art requests, i don't have a fee, i just wanna draw.

why would I want to use this site over marketplace or even mannco the no fees for buyers thing is cool until you realize it’s going to be tacked on to the price like marketplace. mannco is “cheaper” but then the fees make it around the same price. after gladiators hack and manncos hack, anyone dumb enough to leave high value items in the hands of random bots deserves to get cleaned like a chump. all of the writing on the site is fluff with 0 substance, and I fail to see the wow factor that separates this site from others. Every site offers “best security and support” just like papa johns has “the finest quality ingredients” or whatever bullshit they put on the box its called puffery and it’s legal for companies to do. “The reason why puffery is not prohibited under advertising or consumer fraud laws is that most courts consider puffing to be so immaterial and unreliable that it cannot form the basis for liability” basically so long as you don’t outright lie about the site you can say anything you want about your service or product and not get in legal trouble for it legal puffery: “We offer you the best security in the industry, no questions asked.” illegal puffery: “With our top of the line security teams on standby, your items are guaranteed safe with us.” If somehow by a miracle this goes live and thrives, I expect russell to make a ctrade.tf hacked thread soon after

Hello everyone, the results are out! Before we begin I'd like to give a big compliment to all the event participants. In only 4 days, over ~1500 suggestions were submitted. With 1451 points handed out by the mod team, we have set a record for the total amount of unusuals updated! We have only had to close a couple of suggestions. The overall teamwork and quality were outstanding. I'd also like to thank the mods, admins and event helpers for their hard work during this event! Last but not least, a big shoutout to Jesse and the marketplace.tf team for providing us with a whopping $550 in marketplace.tf giftcards in the prize pool. That's right, the prize pool got upped by $50 to include a new 3rd place prize since the score got pretty close and we felt like a 3rd place prize was in order. Let's get to the results. Placement Awards These are prizes that are based on the amount of points scored. First place - $150 marketplace.tf credit and a winners badge on your backpack.tf profile. The team with the highest amount of points and the ultimate winner of the Pricing Event is... Team 4! Second place - $100 marketplace.tf credit and a runners up badge on your backpack.tf profile. The runner-up team this event is Team 5! Third place - $50 marketplace.tf credit and a badge on your backpack.tf profile. The new bronze medal goes to Team 3! Mod Choice Awards These are prizes that were chosen by the price moderation staff. Mod’s Choice: Quality - $100 marketplace.tf credit and a mod’s choice badge on your backpack.tf profile. This event, the Quality award goes to Team 2! As per usual the Quality and Teamwork prizes were a tough call! While all teams delivered great suggestions and multiple teams were considered for the award, Team 2 ended up taking the prize home. Their impressive feat of submitting nearly 300 suggestions, with none requiring closure by a mod and only minimal adjustments were necessary on a very small amount of suggestions, speaks volumes about their commitment to quality. With only a few mod closes in over 1500 suggestions I would also like to take this opportunity to say good job to all the other teams as well! Mod’s Choice: Teamwork - $100 marketplace.tf credit and a mod’s choice badge on your backpack.tf profile. This event, the Teamwork award goes to Team 6! This event the teamwork was impressive across the board. However Team 6's efficient collaboration, heavily involving practically every team member in the process and their efficient internal coordination stood out. It was great to see all the amazing teamwork by the different teams! Best Leader - $25 marketplace.tf credit and a badge on your backpack.tf profile. The best leader/MVP this event is... Jarool! Jarool wins the Leader/MVP award due to his levelheaded approach, inclusivity in involving newcomers and an active role in guiding the team. He is able to seamlessly transfer his own suggestion knowledge to his team mates. It's no surprise that the best newcomer is from the same team.... Best Newcomer - $25 marketplace.tf credit and a badge on your backpack.tf profile. The best newcomer of this event is paperfacee! Paperfacee has made some high quality suggestions during the event. He went above and beyond to make high quality suggestions. His high activity level, willingness to collaborate with his team and quick grasp of the suggestion process make him worthy of the newcomer prize. Participation Awards These are prizes that are relevant for every active participant. Every (active) participant will be awarded a month of backpack.tf premium! This was applied before the event started for convenience reasons. In addition, you will also receive $0,10 of donation credit for each point that your team scored! If your team scored 100 points, you will get $10 of donation credit applied to your backpack.tf profile. If you wish to have your donation credit applied to your bot, let me know within 24hrs of this thread being posted. You can do so by pinging me in your team channel, sending me a discord DM or a forum DM. Do note that, unless the bot is completely your own, the donation credit cannot be transfered back. SCOREBOARD: Team 1 115 Team 2 257,5 Team 3 295 Team 4 316 Team 5 300,5 Team 6 167 Total: 1451 If you still have suggestions by your team that are open, don't worry. We have sometimes applied points for suggestions that have to remain open for a variety of reasons, but might be fine anyway after a bit of waiting. Your donation credit will be handled within a couple of days. The marketplace giftcards will be sent to you through a private message on the site. Let me know in your team channel how you plan to divide the funds amongst eachother. If you haven't yet, feel free to fill out the survey I posted in the announcement channel. Again I'd like to fully thank everyone involved, the participants, staff, event helpers and Jesse for making this event a great one. With a record breaking amount of unusuals updated this is surely an event to remember. Now let's see if we can break this record in the next event, right? For now it's time to enjoy your prizes. Join us in the event-general for a celebratory cookie! Thanks everyone and enjoy your prizes! See you at the next pricing event!

Are you going to have users deposit their items to a "storage bot" that conveniently gets hacked every 6 months? Or will it be like most major CS cash trading sites where the seller sends a trade offer directly to the buyer?

Shoutout to paying people to harass others for tf2 items. If somebody declines/ignores your friend request, stop bothering them.

I can see why -reps accrued from spycrab running would be viewed with a higher level of scrutiny, such as requiring proof of agreeing to the value of the wager. However, they should definitely be visible if valid - I don't see how breaking a spycrab agreement is any different from other agreements based on trust, like running from a cash trade. If I was planning on conducting business with a user, I would certainly want to know if they had run from any type of agreement in the past, and Backpack.tf is where I would first expect to find this information.

you rely on buy orders for trading?

You should make it clear that most traders with these types of items for these prices mentioned above are for items. Cash would be way less. 4,000 keys for knifestorm mining light, are you smoking crack? Also, All these item prices are through the roof and are for meant to wait for years for sale. Realistically if you wanted to get cash/key prices for today then cut all these atrocious estimates in half.

I can tell this is supposed to be a "Wow! That's so crazy and awesome!" moment, but it kinda just makes me sad.

I don't see why a -Trust would be invalid? Seems reasonable to leave that mark on his bptf profile

Meh. I wouldn't personally. You already tried, it's now HIS mistake for not accepting. Even if he wanted more, he could have been more reasonable with his ask. Asking for an Aussie or batsaber... lol I did once give someone an Australium Sniper Rifle for getting me in contact with an unusual owner I wanted to trade with. But it was a HUGE deal to me (couldn't get in contact by myself even after trying for literal months), and an expensive hat. So the 35 key tip was worth it. But in your situation... eh. I could see you giving him another chance at the previously offered items out of pity, but if you decide he's not worth it I personally don't see an issue with that.

The 1 of 5 Spellbound War Pig was priced at 5160 keys, but it was based off of a double-spelled sale. Definitely should not have been. The 1 of 4 Spellbound Sergeant's Drill Hat sold for 2200 keys two months ago. Seems high imo. Two sellers on the market, asking $4,050 and 2400 keys respectively. The 1 of 2 Darkblaze Tyrant's Helm sold for 3000 keys cash equivalent ten months ago, but it was also Pro. KS. The 1 of 1 Poisoned Shadows Tyrant's Helm is currently asking 3500 keys by Nervous Pyro, meaning it probably won't sell near that, lol. I could see the Spellbound Tyrant's Helm selling for a Pan, maybe slightly more. It would certainly quicksell in 1600-1900 area. A Spellbound YWN did just sell for 2700 keys, but that was definitely quite high and shouldn't be used as a comparison. If you previously offered Geoff 3200 keys, then I am not sure how you are valuing it at 1500-2300 now, because I know you were not buying it for keeps.

I agree that -Trusts from spycrabs are important and should be a valid mark on someone's profile. I totally understand bp not wanting to get involved with handling reports or bans regarding spycrabbing, but their -Trust system is generally regarded as our community's reputation gauge. So recording running from a spycrab is completely valid IMO. Seperately.. I also want to comment on the fact that you currently can be -Trust'd for backing out of a trade. If anything THIS is something that needs to go away. To me, this doesn't mean you aren't trustable. Shit happens, and literally any good trader understands that. If you blindly take someone's word on a collecting offer then get upset when it doesn't work out... you're ignorant and that's an irrefutable fact. If you ever find yourself in a situation where someone is making a collecting offer for your item, request a deposit. 5-10% of the total trade value in pure. Example: 100 key hat, buyer will have the pure ready in 2 weeks. Okay, give me 10 keys now, the remaining 90 when the day comes. Then if the buyer wants to walk away during those two weeks, he forfeits his 10 key deposit, and the seller can walk away without feeling butthurt about losing his deal. Buyer pays the price for committing then changing his mind. Fair to both sides. But without a deposit, someone's word in trading means nothing. Stop accepting collecting offers then getting confused and upset when they bail. They always bail, because there is no binding agreement. This should NOT be a valid -Trust reason.

apparently good enough for someone to pay 8000 keys for it

Dude flew too close to the sun ngl

this is the turning point in your life, where you can quit the game or be sucked into the void of pointless item trading

Lame ass update. My current wishlist for the game: - New mvm tour - New strange parts. Hopefully many specifically related to mvm, but also a few new ones for all modes - New KS sheens (White, black, light blue, a deeper green?) - New aussies - Hacker bots fixed, and therefore better anti cheat - Quality of life changes. I don't have them all written, but a good place to start would be a better/easier way to organize your backpack? - 4000 BP slots - New Summer case with cosmetics and effects ofc - New war paint case - New unusual wep effects. Only one I can imagine in my head is some sort of shocked looking one, I can imagine electricity jolting out the barrel, kind of clinging to the barrel of all the guns

that someone then goes on to become a police officer. god bless room temp iq people

How do you come up with prices because a single-class hat has never sold for 2 pans ever?

This person didn't trick you into accepting, nor did they make you click a link. Thus, this was not a scam, phish, or shark. If you are not even willing to check the history of your hat's buyorders, and then decide to base its value on buyorders, then it is inevitable that you will accept an unfair trade of your own fault.

First Unusual EOTL unbox not to shabby....Frostbite Desert Marauder....Buy at 216 priced at 265 almost 10 months ago. No other seller I think I know my price but would love to hear yalls suggestions!

"Hey it's me, your brother" is still the trading meme that makes me laugh harder than anything in TF2

outside of straight up scamming im not sure what negative trusts are actually used for Ive given -trust for market manipulators with proof, taken down. False listings/fake buy orders, taken down. I get why a positive trust system exists but genuinely not sure why the negative version exists when 95% of the reasons for actually giving someone negative trust end up being invalid, even shit like spycrab running gets rejected

dog you might as well just hit that item wiki page button

I'd change the phrasing, I don't think anyone thinks peer-2-peer means peer->bot->peer

Can you tell us a little more about the "Unbeatable Security" as described in the "About Us" section? What "industry-leading" security measures are implemented (or intend to be implemented) in order to safeguard trades? You mention this project is "not like the others", so I'm trying to deduce what exactly would set your platform apart from established/reputable competition. I wouldn't consider peer-to-peer trading an "industry-leading security measure" so I'm curious to know. Additionally, I noticed while looking over your terms and privacy policy (which just need some work in general to clean things up, make things more consistent/concise) the following: This tells users nothing of how their information is actually kept safe - it's just a one-liner and then a paragraph-long disclaimer. These are just a couple things I noticed skimming the page. Especially with the recent major hijackings, security and privacy are two of the MOST important aspects of choosing a platform to sell, and frankly your website as it stands does not really communicate that potential users' privacy and security is truly safe. If you're pursuing this project in good faith, I do hope you take this into consideration.

Wow. What an astute observation. Certainly a great way to continue the conversation as always Russel

This is the most Reddit chungus moment in all of bp.tf history. Shocked someone outrussellposted Russell.

A free, open-source tool I made that tracks new unusual listings and displays them. https://github.com/wersady/backpacktf-classifieds-parser It's extremely bare-bones and very buggy, but it does the job. Probably won't update this much, but feel free to give feedback.

sorry bout the wait, i color by hand instead of using a fill tool, so it took a bit

sry bout late response, i got distracted, but here it is!

My unique #8 stately steel toe sold for 6 keys. Not sure if that helps as reference but gl selling

Only the first frame shows in game so its just a normal CO, that displays a gif on bp.tf https://imgur.com/a/l10nLtb confirmed from the account making them. Hasn't stopped people from paying a lot for them though https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198867208675#!/compare/1712448000/1712534400 (nsfw COs)

ctrl+f exists for a reason

How does the idea that you're not well known in the community mean that you need to get Russell to start a thread for you? Usually the thing that gets more responses in a price check thread is the item itself, not who posted it (as much as Russell starting threads does tend to get more responses, they're often not responses that really answer your question).

Bros really trying to offload both of them after you dropped this thread

Combo it with the backpack.tf classified listings.

If your intention is to link this post to your support ticket, I recommend you to close this right now. You were asked for proof of each individual purchase a month and a half ago. Everyone else has provided this, and refunded but seems to be an issue for you. I wonder why..... You got time to contact people and write these posts, but you need 2 months to check your trade-history

thanks for ICESTRCUK BALKANS BRUTE

So mannco sales aren't valid proof for price suggestions since backpack.tf price mods can't access the site to confirm it. https://backpack.tf/item/12498331877 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198373779833#!/compare/1708992000/1709078400 This is the only valid recent sale and it's bulk qs for keys So it'll be left outdated

gg's to all, icy thank you for teaching me way more about price suggesting than I knew before!

ggs to everyone, beponeko got robbed for best newcomer

Spellbound is beautiful, typically the 2nd or 3rd best effect in the game in terms of general value / "tier". I prefer Arcana due to how poor the visibility on Spellbound is in most bright environments, but if they had the same visibility I'd take Spellbound over Arcana any day of the week without question. From what I've seen the "order" of all the high/god tier 2011-2014 hween effects in terms of value tends to go something like this; 1) Bonzo 2) Spellbound, Knifestorm, Arcana, Darkblaze 3) Hellfire, Demonflame, Poisoned Shadows, Stormy 13th Hour 4) Harvest Moon, Secret to Everybody, Chiroptera Venenata, SBTWC 5) Misty Skull, The Ooze, Stare from Beyond, Amaranthine, Cloudy Moon

Link please. It really sucks typing out URLs one character at a time...this could be a game changer for me!

there's no way thats one gpan let alone 2.

Stumbled across this guy's insane Ritzy Rick collection, and decided to make a video on it: If you could make a similar collection of any single item in TF2, what would it be and why?

that’s how I feel about the Tossle cap. Crafted the burning flames spec ks one, owned multiple spelled ones, have had some higher tier Tossle caps and always keep an eye out for rare ones the current rarest Tossle caps are knifestorm, been lost/in a scammer bp for over 10 years, and (what I consider) one of the weirdest unusual hats in the game, the “kemosabe” tosslecap, or the no effect unusual. Extremely, extremely rare, not even hack the gibson has one. I think there’s like a total of 4-5 of these, one of them was a towering pillar of hats, I did a small amount of research on this topic awhile back and any info is over a decade old https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197993900595