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  1. 23 points
    xTH3RM4Lx

    Application: Blaze.xTH3RM4Lx [TF2, Pricing]

    Your age: 18 Your geographical location: London, England How long have you been using backpack.tf: 5 years Time you are able to devote to moderation on a daily/weekly basis: Most of the time I should be able to put in a couple or so hours of work at the least per day (that would be for busy days), but when I'm completely free though I can see myself being on the website for literally the whole day. I'm usually always online but will stick to a couple hours a day to be on the safe side. Why you want to be a moderator? At the beginning of my suggesting career, I started off as a pretty rubbish suggester, people telling me to quit. Despite having a voting/suggestion accuracy of around 50% at the time I was determined to continue helping the site out by learning and listening to more experienced suggesters' advice and now, I believe I have got enough experience to start a new chapter and begin price moderating and to continue to learn and improve. Are you currently an admin/mod elsewhere? No Past experiences as an admin/mod: I am a group admin of a raffle group I made but I haven't used this in a very long time. Have you ever been trade banned or tagged as a scammer on steamrep? No Include any additional information that could help you: Polar and Teeny hit me up after the first unusual pricing event and let me know they were interested in me applying however not all the mods believed I was up to par yet so since then I have been trying to provide feedback/extra proof on suggestions and improving myself and now after talking to Teeny several times in the last few months I believe I am ready now. I have been an active trader for the past 5 years now which I believe further supports why tf2 pricing would be a good role for me. My backpack value is currently $4000. I have helped several other suggesters in the past and never complain when someone starting off asks for help. My all time stats on backpack.tf are as follows: 87.82% on suggestion voting from 36000+ votes and 95.16% on suggestions from 3000+ suggestions. (Last months stats: 91.70% voting accuracy from 1433 votes and 99.36% suggestion accuracy from 156 suggestions) I am the #2 contributor on the site with the 2nd most suggestions accepted (not including d0 of course, otherwise 3rd). I am close to a quadruple black belt. Came in second place for the first unusual pricing event and was awarded the MVP for the second pricing event. I have made a variety of suggestions over my career so far including normal unique items and unusuals. Another important quality that I believe is useful for a moderator is that I am very patient with people and usually never lose my temper. Lastly not really something that could help me but worth mentioning, I make mistakes at times and I'm not perfect but I think that's important that I try my best and give it my all. Include a link to your backpack.tf profile: http://backpack.tf/u/76561198061108999 I'd love to hear all of your thoughts and feedback. Negative or positive!
  2. 16 points
    Teeny Tiny Cat

    Refined suggestions and site USD values

    We have had issues for a long time in the way the site handles USD pricing for items. At present, we price refined based on cash sales, and then every item on the site gets a price derived from that. It has been pointed out repeatedly that this is not the best system, for two main reasons; 1) The vast majority of cash transactions happen in keys which trade at 1.85-1.95 USD, putting refined solidly around 0.06 USD. The difference isn't a small one. Refined moves very slowly. It's easily possible to move thousands of keys at 1.90 per key before moving even a few hundred refined at 0.08 per ref. When considering the intrinsic dollar value of all items, you have to keep these values in consideration - that the intrinsic refined value of all items is around 0.06 USD per ref. 2) Because refined moves so slowly, it's just not worth it from a time and energy perspective for highly reputable people to trade in refined. Refined moves most commonly on highly reputable sites such as marketplace.tf. People are willing to pay more for the convenience and added security. This additional value added is not part of the intrinsic value of the item itself and it certainly is not a value that gets transferred to all other items in the tf2 community, even keys. So, what can we do to fix this problem? The best idea would be to instead price keys based on cash sales and then derive all item prices from that. However, this is currently not possible the way the site is hard-coded, and would require an enormous re-write on the part of the devs. While it’s always a consideration for the future, the mod team have decided that we need a better solution for now. The idea we have come up with is something of a workaround. We will continue to price refined in USD but instead of using cash sales for refined itself, we will instead use cash sales for keys as the proof when pricing refined. We willthen use the ratio of refined to keys at the time of the suggestion to get a more accurate suggested USD value for refined. Cash sales for keys occur significantly more frequently, and occur in bulk outside of sites such as marketplace which may add a premium for the safety and security. This will be a much, much more accurate method for estimating the intrinsic value of items in the game in USD. In practice, the way a suggestion for refined would work would be as follows... Suggestion proof: · Trade links and histories showing X sales of keys for X USD. For the purpose of the example, let’s say 1.85, 1.9, 1.95, and 2 · Link or reference to the current key price in refined, let’s say 30 refined for example · You would then work out the USD price of refined based on the proof shown, for example: 1.85/30 = 0.062 1.9/30 = 0.063 1.95/30 = 0.065 2/30 = 0.067 · From this you might make a suggestion at 0.06 USD or even 0.06-0.07 USD We are happy to answer any questions that you have and explain our rationale further below. Hopefully the community will see that this is a positive change that makes for much more accurate USD values on all items on the site.
  3. 15 points
    A Delicious Cashew

    B***, dont report my bots...

    First of all, you know this is not the way to deal with any issues. If your bot is banned, make an appeal from that account and we will look into it. Making a thread which sounds like a ranting 10 year old is not how you deal with these issues. Second, uncraft genuine fear mongers do not exist as far as I know. The fear monger in trade offers from people I could find are craftable - https://backpack.tf/item/5140151073 https://backpack.tf/item/4374806161 . Your bot does appear to be declining trades for craftable genuine fear mongers even though it had a listing up at that price. That is against the rules and will lead to a ban. We do not play favorites with our bans. If you are in violation of our rules, you will be banned. We sometimes give warnings on first offenses, but to my knowledge this is not a first offense for your bots. Just because you pay for premium does not mean you are above the rules. The rules apply to you as much as they apply to anyone else. Have some respect for the rules and ensure that all your bots are following them. If you don't want to deal with your bots getting banned, make sure that their listings are correct and that they are accepting offers. If you have too many listings to handle, you may want to consider making less listings.
  4. 13 points
    SpotlightR

    Most profit you made in a trade?

    No, you are wrong. If the one on the opposite end of the trade sent Clyde the offer then it is not a shark. You act very unprofessional and immature even though you're a prominent member of the trading community, disappointing.
  5. 12 points
    Teeny Tiny Cat

    Application: Blaze.xTH3RM4Lx [TF2, Pricing]

    Welcome to the team, buddy!
  6. 11 points
    Scott Bakula

    A Mystery: Steam Market and Tour of Duty Tickets.

    It's a combination of sales tax and currency conversions that make it where for people in certain countries, buying it from the SCM is cheaper than buying it from the store even though it appears otherwise to an American observer.
  7. 11 points
    polar

    Application: Blaze.xTH3RM4Lx [TF2, Pricing]

    This application is a case-in-point for all the people I've seen through the years under 18 who have insisted that they were mature enough to apply for the mod position. The fact that you made suggestions like this - https://backpack.tf/suggestion/515e5360ba2536731e00000e - when you were 14 is actually quite impressive. You have always been level-headed - and that's important - but maturity is about more than being likeable and being levelheaded. It's just as much about carrying yourself with a grace and dignity that commands the respect of members of the community. I remember the common refrain I used to hear from you - "fair enough." Anytime a mod or experienced suggester said anything you would pretty much change your range to whatever was suggested. The biggest change I have seen from you is your confidence and conviction. On tough suggestions where there's really no right answer, you push back and justify why believe your opinion matters and should be considered, so much so that I have at times found myself saying "fair enough" in reply. This is ESSENTIAL for a community leader, and I have no doubt that this would only improve. Blaze, it's great to see you here - not just with an application in hand - but here in a position where you make such a strong candidate.
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  9. 10 points
    Lila Mond

    B***, dont report my bots...

    It's probably not a good idea to go out with posts with the title B*** (P.S I think its 4 stars not 3 stars) People aren't perfect and they make mistakes. Kindly pointing out those mistakes is fine. But making a forum post about how mad you are doesn't help Also maybe you're the one should communicate better with the administrators to get this problem solved and help each other instead of telling people to "Go eat it" ( eat what btw)
  10. 10 points
    Happysedits

    is it me or is tf2 outpost a really crappy site now?

    Geel pls buy it and make outpost great again
  11. 9 points
    Teeny Tiny Cat

    2nd backpack.tf Unusual Pricing Event - Details, Timeline, and Rules!

    We have had an absolutely amazing week with a rough estimate of over 1500 unusuals updated during the course of the event! I know you've all been eagerly awaiting the results, so on to the prizes... 1st place - $300 Marketplace.tf credit and Event Winner profile badge As I’m sure you may have noticed, teams 3 and 8 have been neck and neck through the entire event, and the final count was no exception. We did 3 separate recounts of these teams points and we could not come up with a clear winner, with 1-2 points between them on every count and many suggestions open to interpretation or mod judgment on whether to deduct points for closures and so forth. Given the absolutely incredible amount of effort put forth by both teams and the margin of error inherent in a human count we simply did not feel comfortable making a call that may not have been fair to one team. As such, we have made the decision to award teams 3 and 8 joint first place! Geel and Jesse have generously agreed to award $300 each to the joint winners! Teams 3 and 8 please contact me on the forums or ping me on discord to let me know how you would like your prize money split within your team. Mod’s choice - $100 Marketplace.tf credit and Mod’s Choice profile badge We had a bit of a discussion on whom to award this to, with numerous teams working well together and impressing us with their level of commitment to the event. However, one team clearly shone through. Team 10 have surprised everyone on the mod team with their exceptional teamwork throughout the entire week. Both the site regulars on the team put in a huge amount of effort to include and teach their newer teammates, with Lemons in particular going above and beyond our expectations. The newer members in turn put in time and energy, were enthusiastic and eager to learn, and continued working together very well even when their more experienced teammates were unavailable. All in all, team 10 were a fantastic example of what we were trying to achieve in this event, and should be incredibly proud of themselves for what they accomplished. Team 10 please contact me on the forums or ping me on discord to let me know how you would like your prize money split within your team. MVP - $50 marketplace.tf credit and MVP profile badge While several participants put in an enormous amount of work both in terms of suggesting and teaching teammates, there is one user who has worked tirelessly and without complaint throughout. Blaze.xTH3RM4Lx got the short end of the stick in many ways, with 2 teammates eliminated for non-participation, 2 who had good intentions and tried their best but had availability and coordination issues, and his premium running out mid-way through the event. Despite all of this, he managed to bring his team home in third place with an impressive 335 points, which is in my opinion an incredible feat. Participation – 1 month free premium, donator credit and Event Participant profile badge Every user who participated in the event will receive a month of free premium and we have also decided to award backpack.tf donator credit to all participants at $0.01 per point for your team. Once the winning teams have let me know how they want their prize money split, I will pass all the information on to Jesse and he will apply your premium and donator credit and contact you about your marketplace gift cards. I will apply your site badges ASAP. Full points totals: Team 3/Team 8 - 415 points Team 1 - 335 points Team 7 - 307 points Team 5 - 256 points Team 9 - 238 points Team 10 - 178 points Team 4 - 172 points Team 6 - 159 points Team 12 - 97 points Team 11 - 86 points Team 2 - 71 points I want to say a huge thank you to everybody who actively participated and gave their time; veteran suggesters and new users alike. I also want to thank the moderating team, without whom the event would have failed entirely, and our owners Geel and Jesse for agreeing to provide the prize funds. The effort you have all put in to make this event work has been absolutely extraordinary and I’m so proud of what we have been able to achieve together as a community. A post with the results of the feedback survey and our responses and plans for the future will follow this one.
  12. 9 points
    Geel

    is it me or is tf2 outpost a really crappy site now?

    I'd rather make backpack a proper competitor.
  13. 8 points
    Piterek

    Remove Marketplace.tf bots off Top Inventories List

    But those items don't belong to the bots, but the people that stored them there. I don't see why the bot here is a problem. I think that you're the first person with such a complain. Also better start caring about the real penis instead of your e-penis.
  14. 8 points
    eggbot

    My experience with a scammer on facebook

    So a scammer added me and one thing led to another https://imgur.com/gallery/b0H2S ^Conversation on steam Proceeded to add him on facebook https://imgur.com/gallery/5sWog Found his mum through one of his posts dedicated to her and messaged his mum https://imgur.com/gallery/JpAMz
  15. 8 points
    Discovery

    How is TF2 Trading?

  16. 8 points
    Zeus_Junior

    i got scammed 35 keys

    They are BOTH banned on steamrep and you still traded with them?
  17. 8 points
    ______

    am i the only one with bad luck

    That thing you're experiencing is called life. You can make it a lot better if you get out of your depressed slump and run, eat better, shower, be more social, set goals, anything besides wallow in your own sadness. There's no one else but you who can fix you.
  18. 8 points
    Scott Bakula

    Stop raising the price of keys

    As an adult, I can say I've wasted money in far worse ways than virtual items. At least with the virtual items, I can cash out, whereas I can never un-try Taco John's Flamin' Hot Cheeto Burrito. In any case, what you're failing to understand from that argument is not that a person should get a job, but that if a person starts from nothing, they are wasting an incredible amount of time compared to where they would be if they had simply started with a minimal initial investment. $20 is a cheap starting point (which is basically the cost of TF2 back before it went f2p when keys weren't worth much refined), as it allows a person to jump right into higher-tier trading and in terms of labor, only reflects 2-3 hours or less of actual work.
  19. 8 points
    HarryG

    Best steam conversations

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  21. 7 points
    Wokath

    In Trouble

    crap
  22. 7 points
    FLAIMBOT_

    I just go blasted by stn.tf price moderator for no good reason

    #ScraptfMasterrace
  23. 7 points
    pewpewAttack

    Remove Marketplace.tf bots off Top Inventories List

    That's what even makes it worst. The top inventories list should be individuals who ACTUALLY OWN their items. How can anyone's e-penis possibly be safe with bot inventories like these. As regards to my real penis. My real penis is the size that it will be forever. The only thing I can make bigger is my e-penis.
  24. 7 points
    HarryG

    The Wonderful Destruction of CNN #CNNBlackmail

    Not surprised that people are defending CNN's idiocy, these days everything gets defended to the death. I'm pretty glad that CNN has lost its credibility at this point, this along with that recording regarding the Russia stories. They don't use good journalistic methods and it's not good news. Might as well be TMZ. Although to be fair, most of the "defense" I've seen in this thread alone (not to speak of online liberal hotspots) is just drawing talk away to other issues on the right. So not really a defense, just different problems. It shouldn't be an issue of right vs. left if you ask me (although the left loves to justify their actions based on if other people have done it), all forms of doxxing and blackmail are wrong. As others have said (And I'm sure I'll get a similar response with a nice neat argument for why everything everybody else says is wrong just like everybody else did), bringing up Trump and r/thedonald without actually saying anything relevant to the original source material of the post just proves to me that the people doing so don't even have a valid argument about OP and therefore no relevant post for the thread. So without responding to whatever's coming (I'm sure something is), that's my bottom-line. No matter how you play with words and definitions, bringing something completely irrelevant and not tied to the original post to the table is not worth a post in a serious political thread if you ask me.
  25. 7 points
    FishtheFish

    Stop raising the price of keys

    Keys aren't increasing in value; ref is decreasing in value. In 2013, there was something like 750,000 ref in existence and now there's 3 milli+. Additionally, why is keys costing more ref bad? How is that unfair? Way back when a key could only get you a couple of cosmetics, and today, a single key can get you a set for every class if you stretch your dollar.
  26. 7 points
    ______

    Stop raising the price of keys

    It's actually improving the economy in some ways, now with 30 ref keys you can buy enough cosmetics for all your classes and have some left over for other shit. Keys are only $2.50 which means you can buy a all of that for $2.50. Scrap to unusual is stupid, you're wasting your time and you should just get a job and buy yourself one.
  27. 7 points
    saveriocello

    small change that could do alot

    So as spells seem to be more and more popular but all are still unpriced could you add a tag much like the low craft hat tag that simply says "warning price of item may be higher due to applied spell" just like how the low crafts work. I think it would be an easy thing that would help out a lot of people
  28. 6 points
    FLAIMBOT_

    In Trouble

    Yeah I agree with this. From what I've seen of you on the forums you seem like a nice guy, which really breaks my heart to hear that this happened to you BUT yeah I wouldnt beat yourself up over it. If you dont have a job already, I reccommend being a pizza delivery guy my bro is a pizza guy for me n eds and he makes almost double minimum when hes getting good tips (which is most of the time) so seriously, $750 can be made back in a few weeks if youre working a good job and dont have other responsibilities to pay for
  29. 6 points
    ѕιи

    I just go blasted by stn.tf price moderator for no good reason

    As bad as he might've been, no user of your site deserves to be disrespected just as you were and like Harry said, you can handle bad words and spam; any moderator/administrator HAS TO. You are a part of a bigger organization than yourself so it is important for you to recognize you also represent that organization. Anything you say or do is as if STN itself is talking and that should always be on your mind when you talk to anyone, regardless of the conversation. That being said, your workload does not excuse your actions and using it to do so makes you and STN look worse (if that's even possible considering all the negative press this site has received). In this scenario, you are both in the wrong. The only thing you BOTH can do is try to learn from this.
  30. 6 points
    Corpfox

    Steam moderator corrupt

    OP is a terrible beggar. http://steamcommunity.com/app/440/discussions/0/2741975115071158401/
  31. 6 points
    Vrakos Anthrakir

    should i invest in unboxing

    not unless by "invest" you actually mean "gamble"
  32. 6 points
    Floro

    Non-Stock Skins? Here are some predictions

    So, Valve has announced a couple of weeks ago, that the upcoming camapign is going to feature some non-stock decorated weapons as rewards. Curious, isn't it? Which weapons can they choose to apply skins on? Today, I'm going to attempt to unveil some of that mystery, as there are weapons that can just not be decorated. Please keep in mind : this article is mostly focused on artistic / aesthetical choices or integrity. I know that weapon usage / popularity also plays a role in the weapons they choose to add attribute to them, but there are cases where it's simply not possible to apply decoration on a weapon, regardless of how much popularity it could have garnered within the TF2 playerbase. Reversely, there are weapons which are very good candidates to get skinned variants, even if the TF2 community isn't as likely to take notice of those since they're not as popular. For this reason, I will not acknowledge the "popularity" factor in the first part of this article, where I will list the weapons that are the least likely to receive the decorated quality, and will mention it on the weapons which are the most likely to be added as skins. Before highlighting the more likely candidates, let's go through an elimination process to see which weapons are simply not fit for decoration ; there are several things to take into consideration, so bear with me. I - The less likely contenders Weapons which too closely resemble other weapons You have to take into consideration that some weapons already exist within the Decorated quality ; if you pick weapons that are too similar and apply a paintjob on them, it's going to be harder for the player to tell them apart. Some weapons are strongly affected by this due to the fact that they make the same noises as the stock variant that resembles them. For example, the Kritzkrieg provides the same sound feedback as the stock Medi gun (when healing), and the Scottish Resistance uses the exact same sounds as the Stock Stickybomb launcher. Those which have a different sound, such as the Natascha or the Backburner, are affected by this to a lesser extent, as the player can immediately tell them apart by the sound they make. Applying a paintjob on them could still confuse players who are trying to tell them apart on sight, but not when they are faced with the aforementioned weapons, and forced to deal with their users. On the other hand, you have weapons which are very similar to one another, without having one of the variants already existing within the decorated quality. This can be observed with the Equalizer/Escape Plan, and the Killing Gloves of Boxing/Gloves of Running Urgently, where both weapons share the same models, but have different textures. In this case, my guess would be that the one with the smallest amount of distinctive features is the best candidate for a skin. The GRU has a bunch of flames on its textures to distinguish it from the KGB, and applying a paintjob over them would make this distinction irrelevant. A point can also be made on the fact that the flames are already a decoration on their own, and the KGB could be more deserving of a skin due to its wide, plain looking textures, making it all the easier to apply textures on it. In the case of the Equalizer/Escape plan, The Equalizer features blood to distinguish it from its counterpart, which makes this weapon less likely for a reskin, and makes the Escape Plan a good candidate. Weapons where there isn't much to decorate This is something that is particularly relevant to translucent items, where applying decorative textures would ruin the concept of having an icey weapon, in the case of the Spy-Cicle. When it comes to the Mad Milk or the Jarate, it would be difficult to decorate them too, as changing the bottles' textures would make it impossible to see what the jar contains. The only thing you can do for those is to either put some paint on the Jarate's lid, or put a label on the bottles ; that's very unlikely to happen, simply due to the fact that when a weapon is decorated, it is entirely covered in paint (or partial decorations would be a new thing, even if I don't suspect it). If this were to happen, there wouldn't be as much to look at for the player, ruining the concept of skins. In the case of weapons like the Huntsman (and to an extent, the disciplinary action), they just seem too thin to feature any sort of interesting paintjob. Weapons which are already decorated These weapons already feature some degree of decoration on their own (either in the textures to distinguish them from another weapon, or in their very models, which makes it hard to put any form of interesting paint jobs), which make them bad contenders for further decoration. Paintjobs aren't edible Some weapons cannot be reskinned, simply due to their nature. The Sandvich, or the Buffalo Steak Sandvich, for example, are very unlikely to receive some decorations; it wouldn't make sense to apply decoration on a food item, without modifying the model entirely. Same goes for the Ham Shank or the Holy Mackerel, even if (unfortunately), you don't get to put it in your mouth. Weapons you can't see within your viewmodel Decorated weapons aren't the same thing as hats ; they're both entirely cosmetic, but skins have an additional feature: they're not only here for the sole purpose of showing off to other players. Skins also serve the purpose of pleasing their owner, by giving him the ability to have a look at his skin as he's using it. They also come with an inspection animation to further this point. Any item that can't fit within a player's viewmodel can't have an inspect animation, and therefore isn't a good candidate to receive the decorated quality. The banners are affected by this to a lesser extent, as they come with an instrument; but I strongly doubt the TF team will include these only to skin a small trumpet. While the Spy's watches do appear on the player's viewmodel, they always appear as invisible, making a re-texturing of these watches quite useless. One can argue the point that the Dead Ringer also shows up when the Spy is not invisible; but even then, what if he's using a skinned revolver, and tries to inspect his watch as he has his revolver out? The animations would overlap, and it would be too difficult to implement; which makes the Dead Ringer a bad candidate for a skin also. Demoman's shields feature the same problem; while you can see it on the viewmodel whenever you equip a sword, it cannot appear there as its own thing. How could you feature an inspect animation for it in this scenario? This also applies to all shoe items, since the player can't see them either within their viewmodel. Weapons that can't be obtained through an in-game item drop The list is way too long to put their images, and I think it's fairly easy for you to understand what I'm talking about; weapons such as the AWPer hand, the Sharp Dresser, the Nostromo Napalmer, the obnoxiously long list of all-class craftable melee weapons, the Invasion update weapons (restricted to a certain collection), and so on and so forth. These weapons are supposed to be rarer than the usual weapons, and are usually already a reskin of the stock weapons, breaking the promise for skins of non-stock weapons. I have to say though, if we were to get decorated AWPer Hands, that would be hell of a reference... Weapons with a very detailed model / wavy model Applying new textures to these would look absolutely horrible. Most of their aesthetic traits are tied to parts of their model, and trying to change that could make the weapon uglier than its regular counterpart. Weapons with visual restrictions Even for the Pyro update, these are (unfortunately) also poor choices for decorated weapons. Not only are they a reskin to stock, they're also restricted to pyro vision, and will display a different weapon to those who are not in Pyrovision; while I previously said that skins were mainly for the owner's pleasure, they also serve the purpose of showing-off. They're not mutually exclusive, and will in fact only work if they go hand in hand together. II - The most likely candidates Weapons with wide areas of plain texture These weapons feature very large areas the TF team can apply textures on, onto the which the player will be able to admire his hard-earned contract weapon. This is a pretty straightforward trait to understand, as these weapons can definitely use some decoration for themselves, due to their very plain textures. Even if the Frying Pan is a reskin to stock, I still think it is an excellent candidate, simply due to its sheer popularity within the TF2 community, as it is quite an iconic weapon. The Wrangler also has a massive bonus point, as there's already an inspect animation for it in the game, only used for the Giger Counter (Assassin Grade, Quarantined Collection). Weapons with a dark color palette With the exception of the Machina, which already has its own next gen design, these weapon are fairly generic looking, which is very good,if you want to apply new, decorative textures on this gun. They are distinct enough from their stock counterparts, and most of them seem to have garnered a fair bit of popularity among the TF2 playerbase. These are definitely weapons I can see getting the Decorated Quality. Iconic weapons These weapons are very old, for the most part; they had the time to settle down as classics, and common representations of the game. When they were released, many of these weapons introduced something new to the game. As such, their design had to be simplistic so that the player could quickly understand what these weapons were, which is why most of them don't have as many decorative features as some of the most recent weapons (ie. Dr. Grordbort's items). The Flare Gun, for example, has a very simple textures, as it had to set the standard for flare guns; all players needed to recognise it as a Flare Gun back then, when their only other option was a shotgun. If you check the Flare Gun's item description, you won't find any stats telling the player how it's any different from the shotgun; he has to figure it out on his own via gameplay. What's even more interesting now, is that all of the other Flare Guns will build on the player's knowledge by informing them of the differences from the stock Flare Gun. It's almost as if the Flare Gun was treated like a Stock weapon, as it sets the standard for all of the others. Since the weapon has sunk in time as one of the most iconic weapons in this game (as its sheer popularity makes so that it doesn't even need a description to know what it does), thanks to its simplistic textures (which can now be easily worked on), it would be a very likely candidate to receive some skins. And since most of these weapons have very simple textures too, they can also be easily worked on to add some decoration to those. Stock Melee Weapons Yes, I know, they're stock weapons, which already makes them very unlikely candidates. However, it is important to consider that Valve didn't say they would only include non-stock reskins, and these weapons just happen to perfectly fit the aesthetic criteria for the Decorated quality. Large areas of plain looking surfaces, unique and characteristic to Team Fortress 2, and they're all very consistent weapons, even if there are better options. The point I'm trying to make is purely aesthetic; I'm sure you can see how they can receive some decoration with a bit of imagination. Wouldn't it be badass to have a skin on the Heavy's gloves? However, since this is only about aesthetics, and doesn't take into consideration factors such as their popularity, these are still quite unlikely to receive the Decorated quality. But hey, one can still dream. Weapons with Australium / Festive variants Weapons which have received a Festive variant appear to be more likely to receive a skin, as the TF team will probably allow the playerbase to make them festive on the Smismass 2017 event. Australiums also play a role in here, as australiums are, well, rather basic texture replacements. If they did it on australiums, they can certainly do it again with skins. However, it should be noted that Festive weapons from the Smismass 2013 event (Force-A-Nature, Flare Gun, Crusader's Crossbow, Black Box), have very large portions of decoration, which could cover the skin entirely, resulting in a player not being able to see his skin beneath the festive wrappings. What's to note with these Festive and Australium variants is that they haven't been picked at random; they were chosen because the TF team knew they would appeal to the TF2 community, as they hold (held, in the case of the Axtinguisher) some standard of popularity. They knew they couldn't go wrong by reskinning those. However, this argument can swing both ways; the TF team might also choose to retexture different weapons because they plan on rebalancing it or wish to shine a light on them for the sake of bringing more variety and weapons to pick from on the battlefield. This is why I consider this factor to be considerably less important than the aforementioned ones, when it comes to my... III - My final predictions Please, keep in mind these are only predictions, and I simply cannot claim to be 100% accurate on them. However, I'm doing my best to be as accurate as one can possibly be, as making predictions which would then automatically prove themselves wrong would be an utter and simple waste of time. The TF team might also have chosen to surprise us, which they have very much proven to be capable of during most of the major updates; and this is, by definition, an unpredictable thing. That's the point of a surprise, after all! By having a look at the number of skins released for each weapon during the Gun Mettle update and the amount of weapons reskinned per class, it would be foolish to expect more than two weapons per class. Past that amount, there would simply not be enough room to provide a variety of skins for each new weapon. Scout The Force-A-Nature and/or the Sandman Why? The Force-A-Nature has had the time to settle down as one of the most well recognised weapons in this game, thanks to its unique knockback mechanic. It also features very dark and plain textures, as it tends to follow the same texture pattern as the stock Scattergun. This makes it a very good candidate for skins. When it comes to the Sandman, it already has an inspect animation for it, currently used by the Batsaber only. Just like the Force-A-Nature, it features plain textures, and can be easily told apart from the Bat from both the noises it makes, and its sheer ability to shoot balls at opponents. Soldier The Black Box and/or the Direct Hit Why? The Black Box is very easy to retexture thanks to its simple shape (which is also fully black, by the way, making it all the better for its candidature). Its very recognisable shape won't make it a confusing weapon to fight against at all, and there's already an inspect animation for it, used by the Rocket Launcher. Same thing goes for the Direct Hit; an iconic weapon, loved by its users and hated by those on the receiving end of these rockets, with a distinct shape and very generic textures, this would also make it a very good choice for the Decorated quality. Pyro The Degreaser and/or the Flare Gun Why? The Degreaser has consistently been a popular choice for most Pyros since it was released, thanks to its ability to ease Flare Punch/Axtinguisher Pummeling combos. An inspect animation is already featured for it, currently used by the Flame Thrower. Looks plain, generic, and features wide surfaces to cover up with decoration. The Flare Gun has just about the same properties, except this one only features two colors, without much variations throughout the textures, which would make it an excellent candidate for skins. Demoman The Eyelander Why? While the Eyelander is a sword, one has to take into consideration how significantly thicker it is when compared to other swords. The TF team was also able to put a skin on the stock Knife, which is also a very thin weapon. However, its handle doesn't represent an insignificant portion of the weapon, enabling them to put noticeable decoration on it too, which is why they were able to do it. I can very well see the Eyelander fitting within this scenario too; it is a popular choice for Demoknights, was released all the way back during the WAR! Update, and doesn't feature too much distinctive features within its very model. Honestly, it is very difficult to accurately predict what is the Demoman going to receive for this update; there is most likely a Grenade Launcher to predict here too, but the problem is which one of them is the best candidate? Is it the Loch-n-Load, due to how easy it would be to retexture it? Is it the Iron Bomber, for how similar it is to the Grenade Launcher (and its undeniable popularity)? Or could it even be the Loose Cannon? The problem here is that all three of those follow the exact same plain texture pattern; black cannons, brown handles. Aesthetically speaking, all three of those seem to make for great candidates, even if the Loch-n-Load appears to be the best candidate of the three, especially considering the Loose Cannon already has a (pirate) theme attached to its design, and the amount of details featured on the Iron Bomber. The Loch-n-Load doesn't appear to be the most popular choice among Demoman players though... Tough to predict, and I don't think I can go any farther with Demoman Predictions Heavy The Tomislav and/or the Killing Gloves of Boxing Why? As I said for most of these weapons, the Tomislav is a popular gun, large surfaces to cover with decorations, looks plain and simple, and already has an inspect animation ready, thanks to Decorated Miniguns. The Killing Gloves of Boxing appear to me as a less likely candidate, but still one of the more likely weapons to be picked up; as of right now, the Heavy doesn't have any decorated melee weapons to equip, and I hardly see any other viable candidate for skins. However, setting up an inspect animation for the Killing Gloves of Boxing could prove to require some originality on the TF team's end, which is also why I think the Tomislav is a better candidate than the KGB. Engineer The Wrangler and/or the Frontier Justice Why? The Wrangler has got to be one of my most certain predictions, simply due to the fact that there's an inspect animation for it, that is only compatible with the Giger Counter or the Wrangler. The TF team being the TF team, I'm almost certain they won't be able to resist the temptation to recycle that inspect animation. Also it looks plain, dark, large areas to cover, you get the point. The Frontier Justice would also be a suitable contender, since it is very similar to the Shotgun, which already received quite some fancy decorations. The Jag also seems to be a great one, but I tend to lean towards the Frontier Justice, simply due to the different kind of gameplay it tends to favour. The Jag doesn't provide any new ability, it simply allows the Engineer to be better at certain tasks while worse at others. Medic The Blutsauger and/or the Übersaw Why? The Blutsauger has the same usual characteristics to define it as a good contender; compact, easy to retexture, dark, plain looking, etc... The usual characteristics to define a great possibility for the TF team, along with some bits of underdog low-key niche kind of popularity among Medic Players. The Über saw also seems to be a reasonable guess, as it is also dark, generic looking, and easy to retexture. However, the "Fluid" Über thingy inside of the Übersaw is to be considered; it's supposed to be bright and visible,so that your enemy can instantly know if you have a significant amount of Übercharge or not as soon as you pull it out, even if nobody pays attention to such a detail. It is an important feature to take into consideration, and putting a texture all over it would prevent players from seeing that glowing Übercharge. If they were to leave this part untouched, it would be the only partially Decorated Weapon in the game though. The Crusader's Crossbow would also be a good option to consider, but due to its very detailed model, I don't think it's as great of a candidate as the Blutsauger, or the Übersaw, despite its overwhelming popularity when it comes to Medic primary weapons. Sniper The Bushwacka Why? Sniper is a very difficult one to predict if they're going to release non-stock skins for every class. Pretty much every weapon that isn't the Jarate or can be seen on the viewmodel already has a theme attached to it, and has some details on its very model to remind us about it. Sure, the Machina has a quite dark colour palette, but its model is very detailed and already gives it some degree of decoration, to take it as an example. If you review the few iconic weapons the Sniper has in his inventory, you'll find the Huntsman; however, the Huntsman's viewmodel is an absolute mess, and it would be very difficult to give it an inspect animation as the string extends infinitely outside of the field of view, giving it no precise bound. One could also see the Bushwacka as a possibility for the Sniper, as its combo with the Jarate is very well known. The Kukri could also be a decent choice for a skin, even if it is a stock weapon. I'm afraid I won't be able to give that much more information on the Sniper, it's most likely going to be a surprise to us all. Spy The Ambassador Why? The Ambassador is a very large weapon for the Spy, and a very popular one too. The decorations it features on its barrel are textures, and can easily be replaced with new ones by the TF2 art team. It would be difficult to predict anything for the knives, as there isn't as much of a need to distinguish them from one another, as most of the time, you won't be able to see the Spy's weapons, and all of the Spy's knives share one main purpose; backstabbing. While we can surely get rid of the Spy-Cicle, for example, both the Your Eternal Reward or the Conniver's Kunai could serve as decent contenders for additional decoration. Multi-Class The Frying Pan Why? The Frying Pan would be a great possibility if the mercs were to all get a weapon in their Melee slot. Conveniently enough, the frying pan can't be equipped by the Engineer or the Spy; both already have skinned melee weapons. It is dark, it has very large surfaces of generic looking textures to cover, and it would be an easy way to give everyone a melee weapon to look at. While it is a reskin to stock, it is certainly a very popular weapon within the TF2 community, and a very well recognized one at that, thanks to its obnoxiously loud noises. There you have it! An attempt, as accurate as possible, to narrow down the different possibilities for skins we might be receiving pretty soon for this Pyro Update! While this non-stock skin announcement left me quite curious, it is important to remember that this also means that contracts are back, with quite an amount of new features for us all to enjoy! That being said though, please understand that this isn't a list of weapons I want within the decorated quality. This is more of an article to explain what makes a weapon likely to receive the Decorated Quality and to narrow down the different possibilities one could think of to the weapons we can realistically expect; both for aesthetic, or technical reasons.
  33. 6 points
    AD⚡HD

    Most profit you made in a trade?

    That's a strait shark lol
  34. 6 points
    Jarool

    Best steam conversations

  35. 5 points
    Prof. TrollDemo Ph.D

    Price drop

    You have 406 refined worth of items 406 * 0.01 cent price drop = $4.06 30USD - 4.06USD = 26USD your "steam" inventory value () is your TF2 backpack value as per SCM prices, it dropped because SCM prices change all the time.
  36. 5 points
    HarryG

    I just go blasted by stn.tf price moderator for no good reason

    So basically you're saying that your excuse is that you were busy and that he used swear words. As a professional shouldn't you be able to handle that? One thing I'll say about the staff on bp.tf is that in every situation I've seen when under stress or being sworn at (including by me) they always keep their composure. Just saying.
  37. 5 points
    Weedoof

    What do I do about an impersonator?

    Add him and inform him that, as the person he is impersonating, you are entitled to a 50% cut of the profit he makes. If he doesn't comply, he is a bad person and not to be trusted and you should file a report either way. Use f-o-g, they're much faster than steamrep.
  38. 5 points
    ThePickleCat

    Selling entire tf2 backpack

    https://steamcommunity.com/id/Lesbianspacerock/friends/ [TA]Pinkie Pool is not even on your friends list https://gyazo.com/5784b6a3bd99a1d7c4a1a9d7d8f134f7
  39. 5 points
    Woifilicious

    Ban Requests/Rep Farmer Testimonials

    Well given that you are a marked scammer you will be permanently banned anyways, but this ain't a requested one.
  40. 5 points
    A Delicious Cashew

    Application: Blaze.xTH3RM4Lx [TF2, Pricing]

    +1 from me, there is no doubt you have improved over the years. I remember thinking that you made low quality suggestions back when you were nearing your first black belt. However, you've fixed whatever issues there were and I know I can trust you with both non-unusuals and unusuals. Your recent work in the pricing events and your trading experience show that you have extensive knowledge about unusuals. I believe this has been pointed out before, but I want to bring it up here. The quality that sets you apart from other people is that you are always willing to add your reasoning and have thoughtful conversations with moderators on suggestions. You aren't afraid to point out flaws in our findings or prove us wrong. You sometimes add a different perspective to the suggestion. You also seem to be a calm person and have a mature demeanor
  41. 5 points
    Piterek

    Help me find the right dog breed

    Go to the animal shelter and look there. Every dog there is cute and wants some good care. Most of them are mixed breeds tho, but imo that's good thing. Ask the shelter owner for some help and tell him what kind of dog you want. But if you will do this then remember about one thing - by looking at the dogs there you will be wanting to take many of them so choosing one may be very difficult.
  42. 5 points
    A Delicious Cashew

    A new way for unusual pricing

  43. 5 points
    ______

    Stop raising the price of keys

    People spend money on things they enjoy, why do people waste money on twitch subscriptions, premium/donator rank on Scrap.tf/here, why do people buy display items? etc. etc.
  44. 5 points
    V1nce

    Not Open

    Your bp doesn't go past 1 month old. Your backpack is worth $2. <you ask for minimum $50 trades. 90% is a humongous price to pay. Rita, who left you rep left it yesterday, yet he hasn't had a single drop in bp value for a month. With bp.tf compare, nothing has left his inventory either. What did he sell you then? your bp peak was $50, which got moved on 06/28, Wednesday. It was a glengarry bonnet and it got traded to Rita. ^no real valid rep ehhh id say stay away. EDIT: Checked history on bonnet, added previous owner. http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198129850865/ Confirms he got scammed of the bonnet.
  45. 4 points
    Shining

    In Trouble

    You seem like a nice guy
  46. 4 points
    Budi

    Paypal chargeback

    Sad, but people just don't learn. Everyone needs to do their research thoroughly before making any PayPal trades, Rosalina laid out the multiple red flags in the other thread. No one should ever rush a PayPal transaction, take the time to read through as much as possible on their account. And lastly, this is why I don't even bother with PayPal trading anymore. The cashout amount even with the 10% commission on Marketplace.tf is still comparable to what I'd get on the open market with PayPal, so why even bother risking it?
  47. 4 points
    AD⚡HD

    help pricing spelled items??

    i wouldnt trade in spelled items, the prices are fucked, its all arbitrary
  48. 4 points
    Kevin the Chicken God

    The Wonderful Destruction of CNN #CNNBlackmail

    CNN is a shitty news organization, the guy who created it is a shitty person, there really aren't any winners. CNN's attempts to defend themselves are BS and suspicious. In the end, whether it be CNN acting like Trump posting the gif (which was childish, but I don't have an issue with it beyond that and it at least remains consistent with his personality) or broadyway actors staging a play where they pretend to kill a character similar to Trump, everyone is so uber sensitive and can't take a joke
  49. 4 points
    ksolis01

    Stop raising the price of keys

    I can get that money and even a bit extra. Also, I can think of a million physical items that are more retarded to buy then virtual items where you can get your full money worth back.
  50. 4 points
    Foamy the Fearsome

    Selfies!

    idk nostaliga and stuff look I was a baby My mom and my brothers (im the one on the left) As a mid-teenager Im sure you all wanted to see this
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