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I agree that -Trusts from spycrabs are important and should be a valid mark on someone's profile. I totally understand bp not wanting to get involved with handling reports or bans regarding spycrabbing, but their -Trust system is generally regarded as our community's reputation gauge. So recording running from a spycrab is completely valid imo.   I also want to comment on the fact that you can be -Trust'd for backing out of a deal. If anything THIS is something that needs to go. To me, this doesn't mean you aren't trustable. Shit happens, and literally any good trader understands that. If you blindly take someone's word on a collecting offer then get upset when it doesn't work out... you're inexperienced and that's an irrefutable fact. If you ever find yourself in a situation where someone is making a collecting offer for your item, request a deposit. 5-10% of the total trade value in pure. Example: 100 key hat, buyer will have the pure ready in 2 weeks. Okay, give me 10 keys now, the remaining 90 when the day comes. Then if the buyer wants to walk away during those two weeks, he forfeits his 10 key deposit, and the seller can walk away without feeling butthurt about losing his deal. Buyer pays the price for committing then changing his mind. Fair to both sides. But without a deposit, someone's word in trading means nothing. Stop accepting collecting offers then getting confused and upset when they bail. They always bail, because there is no binding agreement. This should NOT be a valid -Trust reason.  

I personally think so too. As mentioned by SpotLightR on the last week's forum post, "I can see why -reps accrued from spycrab running would be viewed with a higher level of scrutiny, such as requiring proof of agreeing to the value of the wager. However, they should definitely be visible if valid - I don't see how breaking a spycrab agreement is any different from other agreements based on trust, like running from a cash trade.    If I was planning on conducting business with a user, I would certainly want to know if they had run from any type of agreement in the past, and Backpack.tf is where I would first expect to find this information." The -rep should be warranted and having at least those -reps in place could prevent future spycrab running.

I think if you're going to host rep threads, it's part of your duty of care to make sure things like this are recorded. Someones reputation is more than just cash trading. Obviously it's not my site so I don't get to make the rules, I understand that, but that's my 2c.

Hi everyone. I just wanted to continue my discussion topic relating to Spycrab Runners. My previous post linked talked about spycrab running is here:  As I said previous post last week, DaVinchi and I tried - repping the EGZOZCU, my former friend on backpack.tf, but it was removed as it was mentioned it was better to reach out to the server to get them banned. They were banned but the question stands: Why do we remove the -rep? Wouldn't it be better for him to have the -reps as a way for other gamblers to be wary of this user for spycrab running. For example again EGZOZCU, who ran from a 60 key crab from me last week - https://backpack.tf/u/76561198125894529 His -rep for price manipulation stays, but him running from spycrabs despite having evidence gets removed. If I lost, I would have paid him without a doubt. Anyways after doing more research last week, his rep.tf said he ran from a key crab. - https://rep.tf/76561198125894529 I do admit I only saw his -rep on backpack.tf and I should've kept on the push for a middleman. I should have done my due diligence. Nonetheless I do believe that if we can +rep users in paying up in spycrabbing, then we should be able to - rep people running from spycrabs.  Anyways, feedback welcome. Thanks and have a great one!

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