AlwaysBorn Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 https://backpack.tf/suggestion/589e0a7e0e2cad4fcf3aaf97 Curious as to why this got accepted as I mentioned 24 sales in the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L☆R Konata☆Izumi Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I assume its because you didn't go out of your way to post the proof and that the unsold still remained. Buuuut I can't say for sure. Edit: Alright :> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysBorn Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 I assume its because you didn't go out of your way to post the proof and that the unsold still remained. Buuuut I can't say for sure. Let's assume nothing and wait for a response of the moderator who accepted the suggestion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberny Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Unsold is still there, you did not post screens of your trade, simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrakos Anthrakir Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Let's assume nothing and wait for a response of the moderator who accepted the suggestion think about it this way, if someone made a suggestion saying just that, that they had a couple dozen sales, with no actual proof of the sales, what do you think happens :u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysBorn Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 To the above responses: I provided enough grounds for a further investigation. If a moderator really thinks I would lie about something I can easily copy-paste then he could very easily ask to provide a more in-depth screenshot and I would provide (http://imgur.com/a/u0VQ3). Additionally, my bot's backpack history is also publicly available so when anyone doubts what I say is true or not they can easily double-check. Meanwhile, I'm still curious as to what other reasons the moderator who accepted the suggestion might have had, I'll await his response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Findiculous Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 To the above responses: I provided enough grounds for a further investigation. If a moderator really thinks I would lie about something I can easily copy-paste then he could very easily ask to provide a more in-depth screenshot and I would provide (http://imgur.com/a/u0VQ3). Additionally, my bot's backpack history is also publicly available so when anyone doubts what I say is true or not they can easily double-check. Meanwhile, I'm still curious as to what other reasons the moderator who accepted the suggestion might have had, I'll await his response. That link isnt sufficient evidence of anything since it has no information of the item in question. Your link could be for any item out there. His item remains unsold after 3 days in classies. Shows 1.22 was too high if it couldnt sell for 1.11 regardless of your bots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrakos Anthrakir Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 To the above responses: I provided enough grounds for a further investigation. If a moderator really thinks I would lie about something I can easily copy-paste then he could very easily ask to provide a more in-depth screenshot and I would provide (http://imgur.com/a/u0VQ3). Additionally, my bot's backpack history is also publicly available so when anyone doubts what I say is true or not they can easily double-check. Meanwhile, I'm still curious as to what other reasons the moderator who accepted the suggestion might have had, I'll await his response. I don't believe that unsubstantiated claims are grounds for further investigation but alrighty. and saying something like "just check my backpack history" is pretty much just like people with no proof saying "just check outpost/bptf classifieds" and neither has been okay for years. same with copy/pasting inventory history and similar stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodomi #Ms. Lady Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 It's not that hard to just post a screenshot of the trade or finding the respective comparison link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 If you want to make a valid counter point, then provide valid counter proof. (e.g. screenshots) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators ѕιи Posted February 11, 2017 Administrators Share Posted February 11, 2017 You had no proof of sales; only empty claims. If you actually provided sufficient proof of your sales they would have been considered outliers anyways because of this. https://gyazo.com/b4e7855bd7d0e773dcac16f0f100878c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysBorn Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 Still awaiting a response. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Still awaiting a response. Thanks in advance. You posted zero evidence of actual sales above 1.11-1.22 ref. Also, I'd suggest that you send a PM to one of the moderators as you will high likely get a faster response then. Even though I'm pretty sure your question has been answered by other forumers above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysBorn Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 You posted zero evidence of actual sales above 1.11-1.22 ref. Also, I'd suggest that you send a PM to one of the moderators as you will high likely get a faster response then. Even though I'm pretty sure your question has been answered by other forumers above. Although other forumers have provided reasons why the suggestion MIGHT have been closed, I'd like the moderator that accepted the suggestion to clear things out for me if that was actually the reason or not, since there is no way of knowing for sure. I can't pm the specific moderator since I don't know which moderator accepted my suggestion. I know moderators have already read this suggestion question and I'm sure that as a well functioning team they'll give this through to the specific moderator who accepted the suggestion so he/she can clear things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysBorn Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Still hoping to get an answer, unfortunate I have to bump this multiple times in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Teeny Tiny Cat Posted March 10, 2017 Administrators Share Posted March 10, 2017 I have no idea who accepted it or what the market looked like then but based on the comments, I'd say because you posted no proof and there were valid unsolds at suggested price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iTrade ™ Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 I have no idea who accepted it or what the market looked like then but based on the comments, I'd say because you posted no proof and there were valid unsolds at suggested price. Couldn't you just ask the moderator who accepted the suggestion to reply to AlwaysBorn? Then the poor fella wouldn't have to bump this thread so often over a period of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neemo Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Couldn't you just ask the moderator who accepted the suggestion to reply to AlwaysBorn? Then the poor fella wouldn't have to bump this thread so often over a period of weeks. I have no idea who accepted it or what the market looked like then but based on the comments, I'd say because you posted no proof and there were valid unsolds at suggested price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Couldn't you just ask the moderator who accepted the suggestion to reply to AlwaysBorn? Then the poor fella wouldn't have to bump this thread so often over a period of weeks. Or he could just send a PM to one of the price moderators who often handles item suggestions. Even though the answer has been given by forumers (and moderators in other threads) already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysBorn Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Or he could just send a PM to one of the price moderators who often handles item suggestions. Even though the answer has been given by forumers (and moderators in other threads) already. As I mentioned before, I don't know and have no way of knowing who accepted the price suggestion. I could pm a random price moderator but that wouldn't solve my question (since I would like to know the specific grounds the price moderator based itself on for closing the suggestion). Moreover, as I mentioned before you'd expect that as a well functioning team that the specific price moderator would be guided to this thread so he can help resolve the issue. Altough many reasons have been provided by forumers why the suggestion might have been closed there is no way of knowing if any of those was the actual reason the price moderator closed the suggestion or not. It's honestly a shame when you ask for some transparency and accountability it takes this long to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Teeny Tiny Cat Posted March 11, 2017 Administrators Share Posted March 11, 2017 As I mentioned before, I don't know and have no way of knowing who accepted the price suggestion. I could pm a random price moderator but that wouldn't solve my question (since I would like to know the specific grounds the price moderator based itself on for closing the suggestion). Moreover, as I mentioned before you'd expect that as a well functioning team that the specific price moderator would be guided to this thread so he can help resolve the issue. Altough many reasons have been provided by forumers why the suggestion might have been closed there is no way of knowing if any of those was the actual reason the price moderator closed the suggestion or not. It's honestly a shame when you ask for some transparency and accountability it takes this long to answer. I answered it for you as a price moderator. I can't see who accepted it and I don't feel like individually hassling every single price mod to come look at this thread. I'm honestly not sure that anyone would even remember if they handled it or not at this point. Going on a suggestion and just saying "I've sold for higher" a bunch without posting any proof is the same as not commenting at all. 24 sales = no sales if there's no proof of them. If you have proof of numerous sales above the current value, make a suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysBorn Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 I answered it for you as a price moderator. I can't see who accepted it and I don't feel like individually hassling every single price mod to come look at this thread. I'm honestly not sure that anyone would even remember if they handled it or not at this point. Going on a suggestion and just saying "I've sold for higher" a bunch without posting any proof is the same as not commenting at all. 24 sales = no sales if there's no proof of them. If you have proof of numerous sales above the current value, make a suggestion. The reasoning you -and other forumers- have provided are logical and I can agree with them. However, suggestion questions where specifically created as a way to ask for the reasoning of the specific price moderator. In my opinion suggestion questions should be answered by the price moderator who handled them, as a way to comprehend the reasoning behind the acceptation or rejection of a suggestion by that specific price moderator. (For example: You say reason A is behind the rejection but it might aswell be reason B.) Recently I've seen a trend that suggestion questions are no longer being answered by the specific price moderators, and I honestly find this a shameful trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Teeny Tiny Cat Posted March 11, 2017 Administrators Share Posted March 11, 2017 The reasoning you -and other forumers- have provided are logical and I can agree with them. However, suggestion questions where specifically created as a way to ask for the reasoning of the specific price moderator. In my opinion suggestion questions should be answered by the price moderator who handled them, as a way to comprehend the reasoning behind the acceptation or rejection of a suggestion by that specific price moderator. (For example: You say reason A is behind the rejection but it might aswell be reason B.) Recently I've seen a trend that suggestion questions are no longer being answered by the specific price moderators, and I honestly find this a shameful trend. We used to be able to see who accepted what. We can't do that anymore. You said you can't PM the specific mod because you don't know who it is, but you're asking the same of me. If you want to message every price mod individually and ask if they accepted it, you are free to do so. Suggestion moderators are listed here. AlwaysBorn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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