ksolis01 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Not meaning to start a scare here, but it looks like there possibly might be a sold account being used to buy high value items of users with possibly fraudulent funds through the steam market. Their profile is below and there is one new rep they have for a $450 purchase through the steam market plus two more purchases not on their rep. They offered me $80 for my professional killstreak australium wrench on outpost. I weighed my options of either saying nothing and lot of new users getting scammed when Steam confiscates those funds or owning this guy an apology for falsely accusing him. http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198044877866 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keroro1454 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Nice taste in engineer cosmetics. I'd say given the account and the enormity of the purchase you're probably right. The only thing that makes me hesitant is what he purchased- why not just buy solely aussies to easily flip? Weapon skins and random stranges, and all of them for a single class seems like an odd way to abuse the infinite funds. Malcolm Black 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geel Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I don't see why this would affect users selling through the SCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
λngelღмander Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Typically games purchased with fraudulently obtained funds will be revoked no matter how many times the game has been traded, but I don't think SCM purchases would be similarly revoked, due to their anonymous nature. Now that doesn't mean I suggest taking this user up on their cash through SCM offers, knowingly doing so in spite of possible fraud is definitely wrong. I'm not sure how individual trading communities would treat that, if at all. I could be wrong, but I don't see steam revoking funds after a sale on the SCM. Edit: I just checked his trusts. His most recent trust involves a wallet code, which to my knowledge can only be purchased in person for cash, or with paypal online, which would tend to suggest that he is not committing any kind of fraud here. Unless somehow wallet codes can now be purchased online or with a payment method that could be reversed. Rice n Pasta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weedoof Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I don't see why this would affect users selling through the SCM. It definitely won't affect users who use marketplace.tf! Hey look my 800th post Slippery Nipple, ᴾᴾᴹ Shuffle Spy, phenompak and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryG Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Master of the Hellish Yard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksolis01 Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 What happened to innocent until proven guilty? I posted so more experienced traders can make a judgment. The thing I do know about scammers is that if you call them out on it, they quickly make their profile private and run liked scared cats. A legit user would hold his ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators ᴾᴾᴹ Shuffle Spy Posted January 18, 2017 Administrators Share Posted January 18, 2017 Typically games purchased with fraudulently obtained funds will be revoked no matter how many times the game has been traded, but I don't think SCM purchases would be similarly revoked, due to their anonymous nature. Now that doesn't mean I suggest taking this user up on their cash through SCM offers, knowingly doing so in spite of possible fraud is definitely wrong. I'm not sure how individual trading communities would treat that, if at all. I could be wrong, but I don't see steam revoking funds after a sale on the SCM. Edit: I just checked his trusts. His most recent trust involves a wallet code, which to my knowledge can only be purchased in person for cash, or with paypal online, which would tend to suggest that he is not committing any kind of fraud here. Unless somehow wallet codes can now be purchased online or with a payment method that could be reversed. There are always the people that might type the codes by guessing, scratch the cards in store, or steal someone's credit card or account credentials and take their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryG Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I posted so more experienced traders can make a judgment. The thing I do know about scammers is that if you call them out on it, they quickly make their profile private and run liked scared cats. A legit user would hold his ground. I don't know, I've seen some pretty stubborn scammers/sharkers in the past that enjoy the limelight and deny everything. Either way, you are right in that it's pretty easy to call bullshit no matter the defensive approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I've done a couple of PayPal trades with this user, he is trustworthy as far as I know. I also don't see how you can get scammed in SCM. Just put the item on there for the price he's offering and you get the funds. Technically, you have Valve as a middleman. Which is a trustworthy middleman, he just takes a lot of fees for it ;P Malcolm Black 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragstealer Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I was browsing and saw this. He offered on my hat with wallet codes and I asked instead he use those himself and i would list it on scm and he was happy to do that but it would take him a little extra time someone beat him to it with a trade offer to me and he missed out but looks like he picked up a ten gallon anyhow, some people are actually genuine and if he commited fraud to obtain codes or whatever, that is a valve issue but posting a thread without a shred of evidence is tainting and misleading. If he commits a scam then sure do this but as someone else said, valve is the safest middleman around, just costs an arm and a leg and not quite cash in your bank. I guess i understand given how any kind of code offered sounds automatically suss as so many people try that bs. I guess what i am saying is report him to valve if you think its stolen funds etc, not on a trading site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space~ Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 That gunslinger description though.... phenompak and Malcolm Black 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaTTs Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 There are always the people that might type the codes by guessing, scratch the cards in store, or steal someone's credit card or account credentials and take their money. Scratching cards in store won't do anything i believe. The card has to be activated through the person working the register. Could be wrong though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Black Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Okay okay okay, let me clear the air here. I'm the user described in OP's thread. Yes, I made my transactions through Steam funds, and no, I'm not some enigmatic scammer. I'm an Engineer main that has been playing the game for several years now. The reason why my backpack is so vacant from other items besides achievement items is because I got scammed out of my whole backpack back in November, and here's how it went down: I had many valuables in my inventory, including a Burning Gallon, Smoking Pusher, and other strange Engineer cosmetics. A user noticed that, and added me, offered $650 for my whole backpack. On paper, it sounded great. Extra funds to pay for a plane ticket to surprise my long-distance girlfriend who goes to college 500+ miles away from me. However, he did not have any rep, yet I went with my instinct and took the risk to go first. He ended the Skype call and ran away with all of my items, and I quit TF2 for about two months. I'm a second year college student, and while driving down to SoCal on my birthday, I had an idea to get back into the game, "My bookstore sells $50 Steam cards that I could just buy and place the funds on my university student account that will be paid for years later. I could use those and get my Engineer career back." And that's what I did. I bought 30 $50 Steam cards (30 of them) and spent two hours trying to get everything I lost and more, and again, that's exactly what I did. My method was unorthodox, and I apologize to you, OP, for making it seem like I was a scammer, but I reassure you, I was desperate to regain my career as an Engineer main, and knowing that I have these funds that I'll eventually pay off in my college career, I'll continue using Steam codes to make purchases for the items. Thank you, and I hope that helps you guys understand where I'm coming from. Erik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Black Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Scratching cards in store won't do anything i believe. The card has to be activated through the person working the register. Could be wrong though And yes, you're right. Card scratching won't do anything unless they're activated through a cashier. It took them about 30 minutes to get through all 30 of the cards; was almost late for class lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Black Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Typically games purchased with fraudulently obtained funds will be revoked no matter how many times the game has been traded, but I don't think SCM purchases would be similarly revoked, due to their anonymous nature. Now that doesn't mean I suggest taking this user up on their cash through SCM offers, knowingly doing so in spite of possible fraud is definitely wrong. I'm not sure how individual trading communities would treat that, if at all. I could be wrong, but I don't see steam revoking funds after a sale on the SCM. Edit: I just checked his trusts. His most recent trust involves a wallet code, which to my knowledge can only be purchased in person for cash, or with paypal online, which would tend to suggest that he is not committing any kind of fraud here. Unless somehow wallet codes can now be purchased online or with a payment method that could be reversed. Bought the codes in person through my university's bookstore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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