Kawaii-Chan (♡ヮ♡) Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 That's all I have. Can I really get anywhere with this much stuff? I have around 5 ref as well but that doesn't really matter. What do you think I can do with this? Is there any way to increase this? Where can I find good trades? Thanks a lot in advance ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Veteran Eagle Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I'm in roughly the same boat as you are, except that I also have ~$5 worth of items in my Dota 2 inventory. For now, I'm just trying to make small profits until I can safely and easily flip more expensive items (mid-high tier stranges, weapon skins, ks weapons, etc.). Not much you can do, besides the usual backpack.tf classifieds, TF2 Outpost and such, I guess. Trading servers are also worth the visit, considering how a lot of miraculous deals can happen there. So yeah, I'm pretty much as clueless as you are, so any advice would also be helpful for me. I'm not even trying hard though, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Erection Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 well considering I started with 2 keys, yes you can. Start by turning those keys into ref, then start buying cheap miscs and stranges. Then when you have enough, start buying festives and more stranges. You can get very far with 2 keys. You just need patience. Good luck and happy trading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budi Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I started with 9 keys back in 2011, and then was able to keep making around a half key to a key profit minimum per day. After cashing out over 1300 keys later via PayPal, yes it can be done. It's called be patient and keep searching for good deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigfootMcScrub Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 That's all I have. Can I really get anywhere with this much stuff? I have around 5 ref as well but that doesn't really matter. What do you think I can do with this? Is there any way to increase this? Where can I find good trades? Thanks a lot in advance ._. My whole backpack is from 2 keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Applicable Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 My whole bp is from a nametag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigfootMcScrub Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 My whole backpack is from 2 keys. My whole bp is from a nametag. Outdone to the max. :c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cąℓσceđrus ☁☽ Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 2keys is plenty to start trading up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamamushiiro Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I started my trading with an uncraftable machina. I recentely sold my backpack for 33 keys and flipped it into my dream demoman loadout. It is possible, and it only took me a little more then a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entropy Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I started with 9 keys back in 2011, and then was able to keep making around a half key to a key profit minimum per day. After cashing out over 1300 keys later via PayPal, yes it can be done. It's called be patient and keep searching for good deals. Back in those days keys are worth so little metal. I had a lot of metal from scrapping but I was F2P until keys doubled tripled in ref price +_+ Not sure how true 'the economy is dying' but it's certainly seem to be slowing down for me. (I started with 1 backpack expander and 12/13 refined metal from my F2P days.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy! Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 It actually got me where I am today. 5$ from a friend started my trading career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawaii-Chan (♡ヮ♡) Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 I think I will sell my keys for ref when they become like 20 again, that point doesn't seem too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICK THE THIRD Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I got to where I was by getting lucky with donations and luck from MvM and aussies, however I did do some trading up. Not much to warrent my $300+ bp, but meh. It can be done with patience as others have said, but considering TF2 is a 2007 release, it's almost on it's way out tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobu Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Anything's possible. A few months back I used to camp at the backpack.tf key classified listing site to buy keys for 15-16 ref and sell them for 16 - 17 ref. At times I would make 1-2 key profit, sometimes only 10 ref+ profit. Once I had enough keys I went on to banking Australium items ( buy low, sell slightly higher ) which all worked all great... Until some guy decided to vote to drop Australium prices and key prices started increasing out of no where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senpai Absol~ Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Started with ~1key about a year and a half ago ended up with ~550 keys pure and moved over to csgo then I now i'm in the process of cashing out ;ppp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oli.t678 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 My whole backpack is from when I thought weapons were cool and bought a red-tape and flying guiltine from Mann co store :c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawaii-Chan (♡ヮ♡) Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 Anything's possible. A few months back I used to camp at the backpack.tf key classified listing site to buy keys for 15-16 ref and sell them for 16 - 17 ref. At times I would make 1-2 key profit, sometimes only 10 ref+ profit. Once I had enough keys I went on to banking Australium items ( buy low, sell slightly higher ) which all worked all great... Until some guy decided to vote to drop Australium prices and key prices started increasing out of no where. Wow, that sucks, but that's a really good idea. Right now, key prices are rising again... my guess is they'll keep rising until Christmas. Speaking of Christmas, do you guys think it is a good idea to buy festives right now and sell them on Christmas? Will they sell for more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heated Bread Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 For two keys, I'll tell you the secret of what to do with two keys. Speaking of Christmas, do you guys think it is a good idea to buy festives right now and sell them on Christmas? Will they sell for more? No. They usually go down around xmas because the new ones come out and because everyone else is also trying to sell the old ones at the same time. Of course, there's always the chance that it could be different this year, but I highly doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawaii-Chan (♡ヮ♡) Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 For two keys, I'll tell you the secret of what to do with two keys. No. They usually go down around xmas because the new ones come out and because everyone else is also trying to sell the old ones at the same time. Of course, there's always the chance that it could be different this year, but I highly doubt it. I won't risk it then, thanks for the advice. Also lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ℕ Hilbert-WARing Theorem™ Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Your initial capital is not as limiting as you may think. No matter what you have, the principle is the same - look for opportunities. If there aren't any, make them. 2 Keys is plenty to go from, especially due to the growing rift in metal --> Key conversion and vice versa. Personally, started from $2 last summer (2014) and made about $10,000 USD from trading-up. Trading can be profitable if done correctly. I heard from a wise trader that your inventory growth is exponentially conditioned on your previous inventory wealth, this is very true and you can take advantage of this property to amplify your profit over time. Start small, grow larger and strive to be the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knavesmith Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Outdone to the max. :cMy whole backpack and every game in my Steam library except Terraria started with nothing. I was literally given an Upgrade to Premium gift so that I could start trading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigfootMcScrub Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 My whole backpack and every game in my Steam library except Terraria started with nothing. I was literally given an Upgrade to Premium gift so that I could start trading. Ur backpack isn't as valuable so I feel more secure c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knavesmith Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Ur backpack isn't as valuable so I feel more secure c:But I also have 47 games bought via trading. There's a reason I mentioned my Steam library, which you have clearly ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caboose Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 my whole bp is from 7 keys in 2012 when they were worth 2.33, though i dont make good choices trading wise, i do believe it can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawaii-Chan (♡ヮ♡) Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 I don't get it. Where do you find good deals? The best I can do right now is buy level 100 hats at regular price from people and sell them for 1 ref above normal price. As you can imagine, it's going pretty slow... I just can't see how you guys find the great deals you are talking about :I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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