Jackk Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 How is Electrostaic cancerous? Probably one of the better cheap'ish effects. While electro static does get higher prices than most other effects, it is soooo hard to sell. It only has high prices due to it being a robo effect, thus there are far less in existance than other effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mengh. Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Might you include unusual weapon effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackk Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Might you include unusual weapon effects? I have literally no experience with trading with unusual weps. I know that isotope is a lower tier than others but there isn't really any point in making a tiering guide for them as theres only 4 effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddingkip Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Why is heart under ghosts and all these Halloween effects? It's easily top 10 in effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackk Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Why is heart under ghosts and all these Halloween effects? It's easily top 10 in effects Heart gets fairly low prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddingkip Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Heart gets fairly low prices. Huh yeah you're right. Am I going insane here or did hearts use to be pretty damn high tier. I mean, under burning, scorching and beams but definitely above energies etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackk Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Huh yeah you're right. Am I going insane here or did hearts use to be pretty damn high tier. I mean, under burning, scorching and beams but definitely above energies etc. I think you're going insane sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddingkip Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I think you're going insane sir No but back to topic, it's a decent list although a fixed tier list is not going to work. Flies for instance is a shit effect but on sniper it's pretty highly rated. And Halloween effects are all over the chart because their price is mostly derived from rarity rather than looks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackk Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 thats more of a "these are effects i like and hate" list rather than a tier list. It not really... If it was I would've put memory leak as god tier cuz I like it <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboNEET Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 harvest in god tier ples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin the Chicken God Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 opinions, opinions everywhere it would be impossible to make an unbiased tier list and it would also be impossible to make a tier list which people agree with, the bp.tf unusual effect tiers are inaccurate because of inflated rarity and limited effects (i.e. blizzardy on the noh and coffin kit will make blizz a lot higher on that list than it should be). This is pretty good, even if you don't personally agree with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackk Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 No but back to topic, it's a decent list although a fixed tier list is not going to work. Flies for instance is a shit effect but on sniper it's pretty highly rated. And Halloween effects are all over the chart because their price is mostly derived from rarity rather than looks Flies isn't highly rated on sniper - or any class for that matter. It has a higher average price than other cancerous effects due to it being themed a couple hats (yes, 2 of these are sniper but that doesn't make it highly rated on that class). harvest in god tier ples Hard seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gren Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Huh yeah you're right. Am I going insane here or did hearts use to be pretty damn high tier. I mean, under burning, scorching and beams but definitely above energies etc. I wouldn't say that it was ever above energies, but it was right below energies, above ghosts. This always seemed insane to me, considering that TF Logo and Peace Sign are considered low tier in 1st gens and I don't think that CH is really that different from those two. I get that it was high because of collectors but c'mon, is a circling heart really that cool? I at least never thought so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gren Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Flies isn't highly rated on sniper - or any class for that matter. It has a higher average price than other cancerous effects due to it being themed a couple hats (yes, 2 of these are sniper but that doesn't make it highly rated on that class). Not quite correct. Way back in the day (pre-2nd gen), flies was seen as the best effect on sniper hats because it allowed you to have an unusual effect, but be barely visible at the same time, so you wouldn't stand out like a great big red or green spot on the map. That was during a time when almost everyone who traded still actively played the game (remember that trading had just been introduced into the game). This is obviously no longer the case which is why flies on a sniper hat isn't really a relevant value booster anymore (you can just gets nuts for a fraction of the price now and be barely visible if that's what you're going for). That old valuation is still present in sniper hats to a certain extent, but that doesn't mean it's any easier to sell. In my experience, flies is def the hardest first gen effect to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackk Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Not quite correct. Way back in the day (pre-2nd gen), flies was seen as the best effect on sniper hats because it allowed you to have an unusual effect, but be barely visible at the same time, so you wouldn't stand out like a great big red or green spot on the map. That was during a time when almost everyone who traded still actively played the game (remember that trading had just been introduced into the game). This is obviously no longer the case which is why flies on a sniper hat isn't really a relevant value booster anymore (you can just gets nuts for a fraction of the price now and be barely visible if that's what you're going for). That old valuation is still present in sniper hats to a certain extent, but that doesn't mean it's any easier to sell. In my experience, flies is def the hardest first gen effect to sell. I genuinely never thought about that . I'll up it to low as it does get decent prices compared to other cancer tiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindacos Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I made some changes to the list considering my experiences, and I decided to bring Unusual Taunts in(not unusual weps yet, they're still unstable). -snip- The order: gen 1, gen 2, gen 3, halloween, robo, EOTL, Taunts. God tier: Burning Flames Scorching Flames Sunbeams Its A Secret To Everybody Cloudy Moon Anti-Freeze Roboactive Holy Grail Screaming Tiger High tier: Green Energy Purple Energy Stormy 13th Hour* Harvest Moon Darkblaze Demonflame Arcana Spellbound Knifestorm Poisoned Shadows Chiroptera Venenata Something Burning This Way Comes Misty Skull Bonzo The All-Gnawing Hellfire Green Black Hole* Time Warp Death At Dusk Morning Glory Fountain of Delight Showstopper Haunted Phantasm Ghastly Ghosts High-Mid tier: Haunted Ghosts Circling Heart* Stare From Beyond The Ooze* Amaranthine* Phosphorous* Sulphurous Frostbite Mega Strike '72 Mid tier: Vivid Plasma Searing Plasma Disco Beat Down Haunted Phantasm Jr. Ghastly Ghosts Jr. Flaming Lantern Cauldron Bubbles Eerie Orbiting Fire Molten Mallard* Skill Gotten Gains Low tier: Purple Confetti Green Confetti Circling Peace Sign Circling TF Logo Blizzardy Storm Stormy Storm* Cloud 9 Miami Nights Kill-a-Watt* Terror-Watt* Power Surge Electrostatic* Midnight Whirlwind Silver Cyclone Cancerous: Massed Flies* Orbiting Fire Bubbling Orbiting Planets Smoking Steaming Nuts n’ Bolts Aces High Dead Presidents* Overclocked Memory Leak* If we were organizing this from how easy to sell unusuals are, most Halloween, Robo and EOTL effects would be down at the bottom, since everything entirely depends on the combination of Hat, Effect and Price(You could safely say that a Miami Nights Plumber's Pipe would sell WAY faster than a Green Energy Mining Light for example.) Despite a few mistakes(ooze and amaranthine above stare, if anything ooze is the hardest one to sell, also memory leak > overclocked?), your tier list is REALLY accurate. Props for you on that Jackladin. Also, Electrostatic isn't THAT hard to sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackk Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 I made some changes to the list considering my experiences, and I decided to bring Unusual Taunts in(not unusual weps yet, they're still unstable). If we were organizing this from how easy to sell unusuals are, most Halloween, Robo and EOTL effects would be down at the bottom, since everything entirely depends on the combination of Hat, Effect and Price(You could safely say that a Miami Nights Plumber's Pipe would sell WAY faster than a Green Energy Mining Light for example.) Despite a few mistakes(ooze and amaranthine above stare, if anything ooze is the hardest one to sell, also memory leak > overclocked?), your tier list is REALLY accurate. Props for you on that Jackladin. Also, Electrostatic isn't THAT hard to sell Thanks for adding taunts. And yes, Electrostatic is that hard to sell. Trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0night Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Thanks for adding taunts. And yes, Electrostatic is that hard to sell. Trust me. 136 refined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackk Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 136 refined I have had a lot of experience with unusual trading, however due to a magical thing called sweetstakes.tf, I don't really have any evidence to prove that :/. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindacos Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Thanks for adding taunts. And yes, Electrostatic is that hard to sell. Trust me. As someone who's owned 4 Electrostatic unusuals, they're not THAT hard to sell. Only the really overpriced ones/unpriced ones are a mess to sell honestly, and there's alot of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackk Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 An update on the placing of misty: I placed Misty Skull in high tier instead of god because (by looking at a lot of the high/god tier hats' prices) misty is normally in the same area as the other high tiers whereas the god tier effects normally have higher prices by around 50-100+ keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourtneyWendysCommercials Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I don't disagree with this list at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zirune Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 An update on the placing of misty: I placed Misty Skull in high tier instead of god because (by looking at a lot of the high/god tier hats' prices) misty is normally in the same area as the other high tiers whereas the god tier effects normally have higher prices by around 50-100+ keys. The issue would be that you have Misty Skull too high, not too low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael- Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 harvest in god tier ples that's what I'm talkin about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuuko Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Purple energy>green energy And Im not sure, but dead presidents might be a bit more cancerous than stormy storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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