The Wealdstone Raider Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 This doesn't really concern US people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainford Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 If UKIP wins the next election, it will be the first time a non-main 3 party that has won. I'm in for a bit of change, assuming Farage doesn't fuck up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heated Bread Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Who? What? *googles* Oh, a political party. Well, if leaving the EU is your thing, I guess. I've read many times that a lot of politicians and the general public in the UK think that the EU is unfair to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondHavoc. Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 *giggles at thought of UKRAP getting 326 seats* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian. Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Got my support indeed. Leaving the EU is and hopefully will be a smart decision on our part as we don't need the EU and if anything, they are unfair to us to some extent. I still have next to no knowledge about politics but coming from an area which is populated by foreign people who live off benefits and contribute nothing to England at all really sways me to ukip. Also on the plus side The Farrage Barrage is just fucking phenomenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddingkip Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Please don't leave the EU we need your money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auroz Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Whats that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axie Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I honestly dont get the point in UKIP, i think EU's doing just fine... until that ruined it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Struts™ Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I'm very skeptical of all UK political parties after all these years. I've come to realise that politicians always make hollow promises, and I'm damn sure Farage will be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM! Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Clueless american just stopping by Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tats Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I support this political party as long as it is an anti-EU party. I don't share their opinions on economy and immigration (too liberal). I don't know if they are trustworthy, at least as much as other political parties. Actually, European Union is working as a federal state, not as an union. European Union is anti democratic and its policies go against european interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Map Painter Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I'd be fine with UKIP or UKIP in a coalition as long as they tackle any further extremists that are found within the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gent♥ Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Ahh, UKIP. They're a joke. Unfortunately like most jokes old people didn't get it because nobody made a innuendo and / or Benny Hill wasn't playing and took it seriously. They occupy a niche nobody wants. Nobody wants out of the EU bad enough to compensate for the cringeworthy moment when Farage sits down on his second day in office, having left the EU on the first day, with bugger-all to do and having to ask the health secretary what an NHS is. And they're just filling the role of an English national (read: racist) party, mainly because our ACTUAL national-read-racist party is TOO racist and may as well be called ''The Black-People-Go-Home-also-I-look-like-Fat-Hitler party''. And Scotland and Wales have their own national-read-racist parties so they don't get any support there. They're a sign we need change, but a safe gentle sort of sign - like if all speed limits were replaced to say ''Oooh, would you mind going a little bit slower we wouldn't want anybody to hurt themselves.'' Also Tats just said UKIPs immigration policy was too liberal and he hasn't been branded a lunatic yet. Did I accidentally wander into 1937? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tats Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 You are ridiculous Gent with your fallacious parallel with the nazi regime. That's outdated. Despots are already at the European Commission and European Central Bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gent♥ Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 You are ridiculous Gent with your fallacious parallel with the nazi regime. That's outdated. Despots are already at the European Commission and European Central Bank. I was comparing Griffiths to Hitler in appearance only. Get off your soap-box and / or read what I actually said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tats Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 And the date 1937 should refer to what then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gent♥ Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 And the date 1937 should refer to what then ? It was a random date selected to reflect outdated views. It flowed well and therefore had comedy merit over, say, 1935. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistolvania Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 As much as I support them wanting to withdraw from the European Union, there is a lot I don't support about them. Also, I don't think more right-wing conservatism is something Europe needs. Living in a country that did a pretty big turnover in the October 2013 elections from centre-politics to right-wing conservatism; I can't say I'd want that for anyone - not even my worst enemy. [...]It also plans to abolish Inheritance Tax. Inheritance Tax is generally speaking a very good thing in my eyes, even though a lot of people see it as controversial. The party would not offer an amnesty for illegal immigrants or those gaining British passports through fraud. This completely rejects some of the weakest and most desperate immigrants and stamps them with a dehumanizing "criminal stamp". All in all I am very liberal when it comes to immigration, whereas UKIP seems to be a bit split on some of the topics, but they are a lot stricter than I'd like them to be. Visitors and migrants to the UK would be required to have NHS approved private health insurance as a condition of entry to the UK, unless they have paid National Insurance for five years, saving the NHS an estimated £2bn per annum. If an emergency arises, it has to be treated as such. Health care should be universal and free for anyone - regardless of anything. UKIP wants to repeal the Human Rights Act and remove Britain from both the European Convention on Refugees and the European Convention on Human Rights to "enable us to deport foreign criminal and terrorist suspects where desirable" while still "allow[ing] genuine asylum applications in accordance with our international obligations". What the fuck?! UKIP fully supports the British monarchy and its constitutional role.[125] In 2012, it opposed disestablishment of the Church of England and said it would consider a transfer of part of the Crown Estates back to the Monarchy, in exchange for an end to annual State support. Monarchy and democracy, simply put, just don't go hand-in-hand. Opposing the secularism of England is also something I can't approve of. In November 2012,[127] David Coburn, an openly gay member of UKIP's National Executive Committee, stated the party's policy on same-sex marriage: the party supports civil partnerships but opposes legislation allowing same-sex marriage because of concerns that a law change could mean that faith groups and places of worship would be forced to perform same-sex marriages. As long as the Church of England is funded (partially) by taxes, discrimating on sexes is not okay. For the 2015 General Election, UKIP has announced that it would repeal the Climate Change Act 2008, estimating that it costs the economy £18bn a year. This should be enough for them not to gain a single vote in my eyes. UKIP would withdraw from the jurisdiction of the European Court of Human Rights. Why the fuck would they want to do that? UKIP opposes giving prisoners the right to vote. About as harmful to a democracy as you can get. All quotes taken from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Independence_Party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
There Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 About as harmful to a democracy as you can get. I don't know about that. If people don't follow laws, they shouldn't be allowed to create them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistolvania Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I don't know about that. If people don't follow laws, they shouldn't be allowed to create them. Have you never broken any law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
There Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Have you never broken any law? Not sure. I probably have, and I probably shouldn't vote because of it. On the other hand, I most likely accidentally broke those laws. I did not show any blatant disregard for the rules created by our "democracy", and I don't think it reflects poorly on my judgement. Most of the offenses that will put you in prison, like murder, theft, etc (and unfortunately many others that I don't think should should lead to jail time) show that you choose which laws you follow and which you don't. This shows poor judgement, and these people should not be allowed to participate in the democratic system AT LEAST while they are in jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0night Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 If UKIP wins the next election, it will be the first time a non-main 3 party that has won. I'm in for a bit of change, assuming Farage doesn't fuck up. you want this to be your change? europe is not the main issue with ukip. the main issue with ukip is that they are literally the same elitist fucks as in the other parties, they're ideologically the same as the conservatives except they've dropped the pretenses of big society and all in it together. farage and his cronies are the same class of people as other politicians, only they're also frequently genuinely moronic and bigoted. fuck ukip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Map Painter Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 you want this to be your change? europe is not the main issue with ukip. the main issue with ukip is that they are literally the same elitist fucks as in the other parties, they're ideologically the same as the conservatives except they've dropped the pretenses of big society and all in it together. farage and his cronies are the same class of people as other politicians, only they're also frequently genuinely moronic and bigoted. fuck ukip. Meanwhile Labour are trying to bribe young voters by reducing tuition fees (good luck with getting money to carry that out) and if they win are bound to screw up the economy again - the previous Labour government was rife with corruption/bad management. The current coalition aren't great, but they're better than the alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0night Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Meanwhile Labour are trying to bribe young voters by reducing tuition fees (good luck with getting money to carry that out) and if they win are bound to screw up the economy again - the previous Labour government was rife with corruption/bad management. The current coalition aren't great, but they're better than the alternative. fuck it if it means reducing the obscene debt associated with doing what we were fucking told we were supposed to then call me a sucker for a bribe. they won't fuck up the economy because 1) treasury advisors run the economy, 2) the economy at the moment is doing fine and 3) their economic plan is the same as the conservatives but less brutally unfair. the conservatives would have been worse than labour in the early 00s too, be glad they weren't in charge of financial regulation then in the boom years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professional Map Painter Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 fuck it if it means reducing the obscene debt associated with doing what we were fucking told we were supposed to then call me a sucker for a bribe. they won't fuck up the economy because 1) treasury advisors run the economy, 2) the economy at the moment is doing fine and 3) their economic plan is the same as the conservatives but less brutally unfair. the conservatives would have been worse than labour in the early 00s too, be glad they weren't in charge of financial regulation then in the boom years.I think last night's debate proved the fact that Miliband and his policies are retarded. Also - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11507586/General-Election-2015-Labour-threatens-Britains-recovery-say-100-business-chiefs.html doesn't exactly bode well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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