Depression is ass Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 But I don't see any inflation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torr. Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 o never heard about adding a new use for the metal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Commit seppuku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zefrom Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 If only they give us back Chemistry Sets #3 Ways to stop inflation: Delete a lot of refs by manually deleting it, Chem Set #3. Buy a lot of keys from store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner the Original Scout™ Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Ways to look like a RETARD fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senix Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 There was a guide to this on steam, good info there. ("The coming crash of TF's economy and how to survive" or something like that) And someone mentioned that the bread boxes might have been a test by Valve to fix the economy. The bread boxes cause the key price to go down about 1 key (I think, check key price graph and you'll see it). I really hope that's the case and that Valve will save us. Pray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Prof. Sugarcube♥ Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 There was a guide to this on steam, good info there. ("The coming crash of TF's economy and how to survive" or something like that) That Guide is poison. I weep for whoever actually considers that a good guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENDED Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 That Guide is the lovechild of bags and same2me and everything that is wrong on this planet I weep for whoever actually considers that a good guide. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSpeed Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 "The bread boxes cause the key price to go down about 1 key" Makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slocumruls Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Most newer people or people that aren't into trading that I have dealt with in the last few months just BUY keys using real money (mostly store keys but some from community market) to get what they want. This is exactly what Valve as a corporation wants. The concept that someone can go from metal drops to loads of keys in any reasonable amount of time is delusional and should have died long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Prof. Sugarcube♥ Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Most newer people or people that aren't into trading that I have dealt with in the last few months just BUY keys using real money (mostly store keys but some from community market) to get what they want. This is exactly what Valve as a corporation wants. The concept that someone can go from metal drops to loads of keys in any reasonable amount of time is delusional and should have died long ago. Funny; People who don't trade often: *buys using SCM Funds* People who trade often: *buys using metal and whinges about key prices* People who trade more than play: *buys using SCM Funds from unusuals sold on SCM* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Dong Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Step 1: Gather up very very very very very very very very sufficient of people selling keys at a low price Step 2: Post a suggestion of backpack.tf Step 3: downvoteboat Step 4: Get banned for making a suggestion without any proof because nobody is selling keys lower than 10 ref Step 5: Have a Bed with a pillow Step 6: Scream into pillow and kick your feet and hit your fists on your bed Step 7: cri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lk Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 >using the word Inflation SAVE TEHH KEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPhect Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Some of them are fully logical, proof-based and so on. Yes. Proof based? Someone said it well, that nobody actually searches the trades that takes place ingame, when people were voting for 11 refined, people were trading for 10 ref still, you get the idea. No, this is the most illogical shit ever, you change a price of something because there is high demand on it? What? Who does that, in what micro-economy you will see this ? Nowhere because it's illogical. Stop it with bullshit 'proof is good upgoat copycats', no proof is good for this. When it all started few years back, all the suggestions were applied based on 0.0001 % of the actual trades, BP.tf invented the flow that it's good to change the whole price based on 100 keys. Yes idlers, 0.22-0.33 rec profit bots, and lowballers contributed to the high price we see today, but all these were made possible by bp.tf, who doesn't love traffic on their site, why not make a based community of these suggestions, gets some mods, place in some rules, and now everybody is accepting it as a rule. It's hard to go back now, we wont ever see a fair price of refined versus keys, wich is stupid anyway. Don't worry guys, those who made their profiles with high rep on backpack.tf, along with backpack.tf owners will be happy, when they will realize that what was made to this economy is irreversible, and it will get to a point, where all tf2 items will become worthless, and the game will die along with its traders. If community via bp.tf says that key is worth 20 refined, it will get to a point, where everyone will leave sooner or later. It's all good, we all contributed to this for that extra scrap/rec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WE ARE A BREAD Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 inb4 keys are 1000 refined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Prof. Sugarcube♥ Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Yes. Proof based? Someone said it well, that nobody actually searches the trades that takes place ingame, when people were voting for 11 refined, people were trading for 10 ref still, you get the idea. No, this is the most illogical shit ever, you change a price of something because there is high demand on it? What? Who does that, in what micro-economy you will see this ? Nowhere because it's illogical. Stop it with bullshit 'proof is good upgoat copycats', no proof is good for this. When it all started few years back, all the suggestions were applied based on 0.0001 % of the actual trades, BP.tf invented the flow that it's good to change the whole price based on 100 keys. Yes idlers, 0.22-0.33 rec profit bots, and lowballers contributed to the high price we see today, but all these were made possible by bp.tf, who doesn't love traffic on their site, why not make a based community of these suggestions, gets some mods, place in some rules, and now everybody is accepting it as a rule. It's hard to go back now, we wont ever see a fair price of refined versus keys, wich is stupid anyway. Don't worry guys, those who made their profiles with high rep on backpack.tf, along with backpack.tf owners will be happy, when they will realize that what was made to this economy is irreversible, and it will get to a point, where all tf2 items will become worthless, and the game will die along with its traders. If community via bp.tf says that key is worth 20 refined, it will get to a point, where everyone will leave sooner or later. It's all good, we all contributed to this for that extra scrap/rec. Soooooooo, we're to blame for keys? And i'm 100% sure that keys will FALL before the game dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobmeister Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 People hate the whole key thing because you know, they trade fully within the game. I personally don't care (in fact, this benefits me because I always buy my keys using money, and using the metal constantly, so I'm getting more bang for my buck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminal Inhalation Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 People hate the whole key thing because you know, they trade fully within the game. I personally don't care (in fact, this benefits me because I always buy my keys using money, and using the metal constantly, so I'm getting more bang for my buck) Why are you guys still responding, he's a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♠Derpeh♤ Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I weep for whoever actually considers that a good guide. ^this The guy who wrote it wasnt there from the early days of tf2 and he makes sooo many assumptions, things back then were very very different. Not to mention valve clearly wants keys to be more wanted and ref to become useless because they get a lot more money. Every single update since a few years ago has been phasing out ref (Removing "dirty hats", every money grabbing update...etc) ref is here so the game can remain a decent "free to play" where f2p are not disadvantaged at all they can still own hats, still buy weapons and participate in events. It's hard to go back now, we wont ever see a fair price of refined versus keys, wich is stupid anyway. Don't worry guys, those who made their profiles with high rep on backpack.tf, along with backpack.tf owners will be happy, when they will realize that what was made to this economy is irreversible, and it will get to a point, where all tf2 items will become worthless, and the game will die along with its traders. If community via bp.tf says that key is worth 20 refined, it will get to a point, where everyone will leave sooner or later. It's all good, we all contributed to this for that extra scrap/rec. Then i invite you to use tf2finance, 100% automated and practically impossible to manipulate they are also constantly above bp.tf price because there is a lag between the actual price of keys and us evaluating the proof. You have clearly read up and are aware of why keys are rising yet dismiss it to blindly blame bp.tf, feel free to go to any other priceing website they are all higher than ours. Also high price of keys actually means the economy is better than ever, it means that more and more players can afford keys at a higher price and hence bid against each other and the price goes up. Keys have been the same price, they have never moved it's refine thats declining in value. You argue about "fair price", the fair price is what players are willing to pay and the seller is going to take the highest offer, no one will sell for cheaper and no one can sell to higher because of others. It is because players are buying keys for that price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENDED Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 -literal stupidity- go get yourself phished then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A n d y Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 can we just move this to gb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPhect Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 go get yourself phished then Good ol bash, you can't argue with words, but you can trash talk or get to 'your grammar sucks' point. I'm stupid because I made some points with room for arguments and debate, and you're bright because of the trash talk. It's funny because it is actually makes sense, you're mexican and I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Dong Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Good ol bash, you can't argue with words, but you can trash talk or get to 'your grammar sucks' point. I'm stupid because I made some points with room for arguments and debate, and you're bright because of the trash talk. It's funny because it is actually makes sense, you're mexican and I'm not. Racism eh? your mom should slap you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPhect Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Racism eh? your mom should slap you You're the racist here for thinking that being a mexican is a bad thing and making wrong assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Prof. Sugarcube♥ Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 It's funny because it is actually makes sense, you're mexican and I'm not. You're the racist here for thinking that being a mexican is a bad thing and making wrong assumption. >Brings up Mexican as a personal insult >Claims another is racist If you haven't realised, this is a KEY PRICE TOPIC. NOT A RACE-BASHING TOPIC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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